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re: Florida AD: Muschamp to be judged on full season

Posted on 9/26/14 at 6:31 pm to
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 6:31 pm to
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I thought it was backdoor dealing by Fulmer.


A lot of fans thought that but it wasn't the case. One thing that was really not known outside of campus is that the team went to the AD and threatened to boycott the upcoming Alabama game if Majors was coach. They despised him. However, between the timing of it all (Johnny's heart issue) and the fact that Fulmer would never say anything bad about Johnny or defend himself that was the story most believed. It didn't help that Johnny pushed it either.

I will say that even with that if a player knocked Johnny, Fulmer would absolutely light them up. He admired Coach Majors but the Johnny felt he got back-stabbed.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 6:32 pm
Posted by TommyM
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 6:47 pm to
I don't know if you're serious or not, but I was actually wondering myself if Tubs would be a possibility. Florida is certainly a better job than Cincinnati.
Posted by reel_gator8
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:39 pm to
Some folks are dim witted. UF can be in the SECCG by winning the east and we definitely can do that. UGA, USC & Mizzou all have warts....don't kid yourself.

Key game is UT and if we win that...we get LSU, Mizzou, USC in the Swamp, UGA in the WLOCP in Jax.

Our problem on the defense is easily traced to safety and I didn't realize how bad were at that position, we have played three guys mainly back there who are soph-jrs (some with r/s even) and it aint happening. Boom is getting to insert frosh as starters at safety rather than see 70 yd pass plays too many times. Boom prides himself on the secondary as that was his position in college and what he coaches up. Fortunately he has recruited well and we have the talent.
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:17 pm to
Joker Phillips doesn't have a job.
Posted by Sid E Walker
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:25 pm to
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reel_gator8

How ya doin' man? I was worried about you after last week.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:29 pm to
Can Muschamp turn things around? Sure. It is not like Florida is a shoe in to lose every game from here on out.

What should be worrisome to him and his staff is that the vultures are starting to circle. If the team starts to buy into the "Muschamp is a dead man walking" narrative then the rest of the season could turn ugly real fast.
Posted by NorthGAVol
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:57 pm to
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I thought it was backdoor dealing by Fulmer. A lot of fans thought that but it wasn't the case. One thing that was really not known outside of campus is that the team went to the AD and threatened to boycott the upcoming Alabama game if Majors was coach. They despised him. However, between the timing of it all (Johnny's heart issue) and the fact that Fulmer would never say anything bad about Johnny or defend himself that was the story most believed. It didn't help that Johnny pushed it either. I will say that even with that if a player knocked Johnny, Fulmer would absolutely light them up. He admired Coach Majors but the Johnny felt he got back-stabbed.


Great post. What happened to Majors was his own doing imo. The players, AD and a very large faction of major boosters all turned against him for good reason. Fulmer stepping in during Majors' absence and beating UF & UGA was the proverbial nail in the coffin for ol' Johnny.

Then he decides to come back earlier than expected (scared that Fulmer will take his job) and blows two games UT should've won and pisses away any chance of a national or SEC championship.

Majors is obviously a Tennessee legend and I hate the circumstances of how he left but it was absolutely time for him to move aside and let Phil take the reigns. The bitterness that Majors still carries towards Fulmer nearly 25 years later is quite sad tbh.
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:23 pm to
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Great post. What happened to Majors was his own doing imo. The players, AD and a very large faction of major boosters all turned against him for good reason. Fulmer stepping in during Majors' absence and beating UF & UGA was the proverbial nail in the coffin for ol' Johnny.

Then he decides to come back earlier than expected (scared that Fulmer will take his job) and blows two games UT should've won and pisses away any chance of a national or SEC championship.

Majors is obviously a Tennessee legend and I hate the circumstances of how he left but it was absolutely time for him to move aside and let Phil take the reigns. The bitterness that Majors still carries towards Fulmer nearly 25 years later is quite sad tbh.


Thanks and I agree it's quite sad that Johnny still can't seem to bury the hatchet. But I really don't think he's ready to admit what a mean-arse drunk he was during that time period. Age has mellowed him and yes, he's certainly a legend who I respect for many reasons (prior to those events) but his alcoholism and paranoia got to him when it came to Phil.

What made it worse, imho, is Majors opened a rift in our fan base that still hasn't healed. Johnny was charming, funny as hell, and in general just entertaining when he faced the fans, especially on his show. He really was the proto-Spurrier in many ways whereas Phil never was anything like that. In contrast, he was stoic and incredibly loyal.

The good news is that it looks like Coach Jones is getting them together more and more. I just hope it works. We need to heal that rift for the sake of our fan base.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 10:29 pm
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25188 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:37 pm to
The Vols are a sleeping giant. How long it takes them to regain their former glory, or whether they can ever return, is one of the great football questions.

The Gators were a sleeping giant that woke up, stomped a lot of people, and then sort of... dozed off again.
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