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re: First to win an SEC title? USC or aTm

Posted on 4/23/13 at 6:19 pm to
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/23/13 at 6:19 pm to
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but no drop off on the line is to be expected.

THREE. STEP. METHOD, DALE.
I can only help you if you want to help yourself.

I never said there wouldn't be a drop off. Indeed, there might be some. But it won't be enough to matter--both because of Jake's talent and because LTs aren't taxed in TAMU's offense like they are in others. Defensive lines play containment against JFF. They don't rush him.
This post was edited on 4/23/13 at 6:22 pm
Posted by Cockopotamus
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Posted on 4/23/13 at 6:19 pm to
yea but he was a player. good job getting off topic though
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/23/13 at 6:22 pm to
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yea but he was a player.

Which does nothing to change the fact that his hot, red, All-World-offensive-lineman blood pumps thick through Jake's veins--which is precisely the point.

That and LT is Jake's natural position.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/23/13 at 6:22 pm to
Most draft experts expect Matthews to bethe first tackle taken ext year.

Talent wise, there is no drop off. Even if there was, our line goes from incredible to just really really good. We'll manage.
Posted by Cockopotamus
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Posted on 4/23/13 at 6:31 pm to
like I tried to say earlier, we'll see

Obviously I'm biased and thats why I waited to answer but I think USC has a better chance and can do it within 5 years.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 4/23/13 at 7:03 pm to
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Obviously I'm biased and thats why I waited to answer but I think USC has a better chance and can do it within 5 years.
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 4/23/13 at 7:06 pm to
SC, although I like what Sumlin will do there.
Posted by Sheetbend
Member since Apr 2013
1267 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 7:21 pm to
Texas A&M with it's in-state recruiting base should be an even match for Bama and LSU for a long time.

By the time Manziel leaves, their overall talent level will be even with all the perennial SEC recruiting programs.

UT and Oklahoma are the big losers as the SEC-Aggies become the dominate recruiting program in the Lone Star state.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
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Posted on 4/23/13 at 7:23 pm to
Neither. Won't happen. Bookmark this.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
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Posted on 4/23/13 at 7:26 pm to
It's not the loss of Manziel that concerns me. It's the premature loss of Sumlin.

And to answer, I have no clue.
Posted by Sheetbend
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:30 pm to
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Neither. Won't happen. Bookmark this.


Sumlin is on fire with the recruitment side already this year. They will easily finish ahead of S.C. and very close to Bama and LSU in the West.
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:36 pm to
"...win an SEC title?"
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:39 pm to
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Bookmark this.


done. will remember to rub it in
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:41 pm to
I'll deserve it IF it happens. Isn't competition great?
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:53 pm to
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Sumlin is on fire with the recruitment side already this year. They will easily finish ahead of S.C. and very close to Bama and LSU in the West.


So that's what wins championships? Hmmmm good to know. Remind me again how many Texas, FSU, OSU, Georgia, et al consistent Top 5 recruiting classes have won recently.

Amirite?
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/23/13 at 8:58 pm to
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So that's what wins championships? Hmmmm good to know. Remind me again how many Texas, FSU, OSU, Georgia, et al consistent Top 5 recruiting classes have won recently.


But haven't the last like 8 winners all had a top 5 class in the previous years or something to that effect. A top 5 class doesn't mean a natty, but recent history shows you can't win without one at some point. USC is incapable of ever locking down a top 5 class. They just don't have the ability.
Posted by Sheetbend
Member since Apr 2013
1267 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 9:10 pm to
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So that's what wins championships? Hmmmm good to know. Remind me again how many Texas, FSU, OSU, Georgia, et al consistent Top 5 recruiting classes have won recently.


Saban left the Big-10 because he realized he would never match the Buckeyes or Wolverines in talent while at Michigan St.

How many times did LSU win the SEC before Saban turned Louisiana High School Football into LSU's private feeder system? Once every two decades on average I bet.

Mack Brown won with great talent. Bobby Bowden won with great talent. Ohio State and Michigan have dominated the Big-10 for one reason--best talent level.

Georgia does not keep enough in-state talent and for some reason their defenses have not been dominate, but they keep doing better than S.C.
This post was edited on 4/23/13 at 9:18 pm
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/23/13 at 9:18 pm to
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Georgia does not keep enough in-state talent and for some reason their defenses have not been dominate, but they keep doing better than S.C.


3 straight losses is doing better :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

I think UGA's recent "success" has more to do with their schedule than their recruiting classes.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 9:28 pm to
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USC is incapable of ever locking down a top 5 class. They just don't have the ability.



Well our coaching staff doesn't really give two fricks about what a guy is ranked on recruiting services- they rely on their own evaluations and get guides that are under the radar that they can develop.

There is too much emphasis on 4 and 5 star players and the rankings of classes. a 3 star player is a solid college player that can really produce and develop.

Also a problem with the current ranking system is that it doesn't take into account whether a team addressed its needs or not. You can stock up on 4 and 5 star skill position players but if you aren't filling your needs at positions that don't have as many highly rated players then your team isn't going to do well

For the record USC hasn't had a class outside the top 25 since Spurrier got here. We've established a solid system off locking up the top guys in SC and the ATL area and getting solid players out of other parts of GA, NC, UF and some from the north east
This post was edited on 4/23/13 at 9:35 pm
Posted by Sheetbend
Member since Apr 2013
1267 posts
Posted on 4/23/13 at 9:45 pm to
Spurrier has definitely upgraded S.C., but when he leaves, what then?

I would rather be Texas with Mack Brown, or Georgia with Mark Richt.

Texas A&M in the SEC with Texas High School Football is in a much better short and long-term situation than the Gamecocks.

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