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re: Fire Up the Coaches Board. Texas fired their A.D
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:48 am to Cooter Davenport
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:48 am to Cooter Davenport
I would have been absolutely livid if we had joined the PAC. frick that shite. Our school and our fans have zero in common with those people, it would have been fricking miserable
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Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:49 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Who gives a frick board.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:50 am to SpanishFortTiger
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Who gives a frick board.
Tell that to the Alabama fan who started this thread.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:51 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
I'd be pretty chill with it 
Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:55 am to WestCoastAg
I don't have anything against the PAC it would just be a terrible fit Schools like us, Tech and OU playing schools like Berkeley, Stanford and UCLA and the fanbase interaction could have been broadcast live on CNN like the Ferguson riots
Schools like us, Tech and OU playing schools like Berkeley, Stanford and UCLA and the fanbase interaction could have been broadcast live on CNN like the Ferguson riots Posted on 9/16/15 at 10:59 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Oh I agree 100%. But I'd be cool with it for my own personal reasons
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:04 am to WestCoastAg
Saban will take the position and hire himself.
You heard it here first
You heard it here first
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:08 am to Cheese Grits
Texas is the architect of their own fate. They've made some poor decisions along the way and not surprisingly its come back to haunt them.
Rumblings that Texas was looking to bolt the SWC helped to convince Broyles that taking Arkansas to the SEC was the best choice.
Alienating former core members of the Big 8 in Nebraska and Colorado sent both of those schools looking for greener pastures.
Mizzou and Texas A&M both packed their bags and headed out after Texas began openly exploring the option of going independent or leaving the Big 12 for another conference.
Texas has always looked for the bigger better deal and it has come back to bite them. Meanwhile schools like Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State, and so on, cornerstone schools for their conferences, have displayed a lot more wisdom by sitting tight, not rocking the boat, and not cheerfully telling everyone in the world they'd happily cornhole their conferences if they thought they could get a very small advantage over it.
In sports, as in life, you make a lot of your own trouble. Y'all can proudly stamp "Made in Texas" on your current woes.
Rumblings that Texas was looking to bolt the SWC helped to convince Broyles that taking Arkansas to the SEC was the best choice.
Alienating former core members of the Big 8 in Nebraska and Colorado sent both of those schools looking for greener pastures.
Mizzou and Texas A&M both packed their bags and headed out after Texas began openly exploring the option of going independent or leaving the Big 12 for another conference.
Texas has always looked for the bigger better deal and it has come back to bite them. Meanwhile schools like Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State, and so on, cornerstone schools for their conferences, have displayed a lot more wisdom by sitting tight, not rocking the boat, and not cheerfully telling everyone in the world they'd happily cornhole their conferences if they thought they could get a very small advantage over it.
In sports, as in life, you make a lot of your own trouble. Y'all can proudly stamp "Made in Texas" on your current woes.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:09 am to Arksulli
Saban to Texas.
Book it, it's happening.
Book it, it's happening.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:15 am to Arksulli
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Rumblings that Texas was looking to bolt the SWC helped to convince Broyles that taking Arkansas to the SEC was the best choice.
If Hogs had been included and the Bears dropped that would have made a better and much more stable B12.
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Alienating former core members of the Big 8 in Nebraska and Colorado sent both of those schools looking for greener pastures.
With only 4 SWC schools and 8 Big 8 schools they never should have moved the Big 12 HQ from Kansas City.
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Texas has always looked for the bigger better deal
I would agree to disagree with this. I think the B1G and PAC were the old money dowager whispering into the ear of a young and new money Texas. Hogs, TAMU, and Mizzou went with someone their own age and chose to carve out a new life away from a dying B1G and an uninspiring PAC.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:28 am to GDawg1
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Saban to Texas.
Book it, it's happening.
so they want the "littlest man" coaching football?
doesn't really sound like Texas now does it?
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:42 am to TSipper
Bevo trying to tell Delany he "had to take" Tech may well have been the sticking point at the end of the day, after all bevo was used to getting everything they wanted, no matter how ridiculous the request.
Still it's funny that the tsips want to blame Mizzou for the hubris of their own designs and that while then Mizzou chancellor, Brady Deaton was leading the task force to save the conference and broker a "deal" that would work for Texas, OU and everyone and not let it all fall apart.
So Deaton trying to do the job that Bebee was paid to do and not even reposition to help Mizzou get a "better deal" at our own expense, trying to save a dying conference at the hands of bevo's own fickleness? Then after it becomes clear bevo won't lift a finger to help anyone else and insists on it's own media rights and conference Mizzou is finally THE LAST to leave, yet "it's all our fault" according to these idiot tsips!
Now THAT is who bevo is right there, naming someone else in a preposterous bald faced lie to shift blame from themselves! Head, including 10 gallon hat, right up their own arse and still insisting they look "cool"...
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:58 am to partsman103
They don't have the money people think they do.
They only sold 45,000 season tickets.
Lot's of the lhn money is siphoned of to their "cultural elitism studies" programs, and they are already paying out the wazoo to Mack Brown and Barnes.
Their athletic department lost money last year.
The funniest part is they did this to themselves by trying to screw their fellow conference members!
They only sold 45,000 season tickets.
Lot's of the lhn money is siphoned of to their "cultural elitism studies" programs, and they are already paying out the wazoo to Mack Brown and Barnes.
Their athletic department lost money last year.
The funniest part is they did this to themselves by trying to screw their fellow conference members!
This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:12 pm to winston318
winston318 you have some shite mixed up.
The SEC didn't settle by taking the Aggies.
The Aggies would be welcomed to any conference they were interested in, right now.
The only thing the stronghorns have to offer is leather helmet football wins.
The Aggies have the larger stadium, larger enrollment, and better football team.
As far as OU. They will never be an SEC member. The SEC is not going to invite a parasite to join.
The SEC didn't settle by taking the Aggies.
The Aggies would be welcomed to any conference they were interested in, right now.
The only thing the stronghorns have to offer is leather helmet football wins.
The Aggies have the larger stadium, larger enrollment, and better football team.
As far as OU. They will never be an SEC member. The SEC is not going to invite a parasite to join.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 3:02 pm to FishFearMe
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The only thing the stronghorns have to offer is leather helmet football wins.
While I have agreed with most of what has been said in here by Mizzou and A&M fans. This.
They have a National Title more recently than the Shelties have a division title.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:08 pm to Arksulli
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Texas is the architect of their own fate. They've made some poor decisions along the way and not surprisingly its come back to haunt them.
Not true. The SWC was dead the moment the NCAA lost the right to negotiate TV contracts. Once the contracts were open for bid to multiple networks (including the embryonic ESPN), a conference of just two states is dead man walking. Arkansas then sealed the conference’s fate with Frank Broyles being a regular golfing buddy with SEC commissioner Roy Kramer. This gave Arkansas the chance to jump ship first when Kramer wanted to expand the SEC. Long term, that was a great decision by Broyles.
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Rumblings that Texas was looking to bolt the SWC helped to convince Broyles that taking Arkansas to the SEC was the best choice.
Texas was not looking to bolt the SWC. Once Arkansas did leave, then everybody looked around but Texas didn’t leave the SWC for another 4 seasons after the Pigs left.
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Alienating former core members of the Big 8 in Nebraska and Colorado sent both of those schools looking for greener pastures.
Nebraska was butt hurt because the conference decided to get rid of prop-48 players. I realize that this sounds crazy, but admitting a kid who has neither the SAT or GPA to be admitted into college is just ridiculous. By the way, that vote went 11-1 against Nebraska, so it wasn’t just Texas.
Colorado always made goo goo eyes to the West Coast because of the number of students that go to Boulder from the California each year. But Colorado was more of a Pac-10 checkmate against the Big 12 South bringing Baylor. No way was the Pac-10 going to take a private religious school. If they had wanted that, they would have taken BYU over Utah.
Long term, I still think Texas, Tech, OU and Ok State end up in the Pac-12, but that is still a ways off.
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Mizzou and Texas A&M both packed their bags and headed out after Texas began openly exploring the option of going independent or leaving the Big 12 for another conference.
Texas never openly looked at going independent. We have known, do know and will always know that we need a conference for every sport not named football. You had media heads who didn’t know a damn thing writing about it but the possibility was never discussed. Texas would have joined the Big 10 and just taken Delaney’s blood money before we went independent.
As crazy as this sounds, Texas does feel responsible for Texas Tech and less so, Baylor. This gets to the heart of the “Tech Problem” that Bill Powers mentioned in his emails with Ohio State president Gordon Gee. As it stands, it was Texas agreeing to stay in the Big 12 and not leave Tech and Baylor behind that kept the state legislature from blocking A&M’s move to the SEC.
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Texas has always looked for the bigger better deal and it has come back to bite them. Meanwhile schools like Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State, and so on, cornerstone schools for their conferences, have displayed a lot more wisdom by sitting tight, not rocking the boat, and not cheerfully telling everyone in the world they'd happily cornhole their conferences if they thought they could get a very small advantage over it.
Simply not true. Texas loved the SWC until it become economically unviable. Without question, the best thing ever to happen to Texas sports was the advent of the Big 12 and we would love to be in that conference now, but Big 10 dollars meant more to Nebraska and Tom Osborne and so the Big 12 died on the vine.
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In sports, as in life, you make a lot of your own trouble. Y'all can proudly stamp "Made in Texas" on your current woes.
I only wish Texas had the power you seem to think we do. But we don’t and we never have.
This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:08 pm to Jagd Tiger
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Bevo trying to tell Delany he "had to take" Tech may well have been the sticking point at the end of the day, after all bevo was used to getting everything they wanted, no matter how ridiculous the request.
There was no “had to take” at all as Texas never communicated with Jim Delaney. It was entirely between Bill Powers and Ohio State President Gordon Gee. Texas knew that Tech as a non AAU school would never be granted membership into the Big 10. We also knew that the Big 10 wasn’t going to take 3 Texas schools and we knew we couldn’t leave Tech behind. So, while the email chain between Powers and Gee is entertaining, it ultimately showed that Texas was handcuffed in what we could do.
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Still it's funny that the tsips want to blame Mizzou for the hubris of their own designs and that while then Mizzou chancellor, Brady Deaton was leading the task force to save the conference and broker a "deal" that would work for Texas, OU and everyone and not let it all fall apart.
Missouri was having to try and save the Big 12 after Nebraska snaked their spot in the Big 10. Poor Missouri, you will forever be second tier to Nebraska and Kansas despite having the TV markets those two state don’t have. That’s the only thing keeping Missouri from being as desired as Iowa State.
I don’t fault Missouri for going to the SEC, though. You screwed up your chance at the Big 10, then you decided to go all in and kill the only rivalry game you have so that you could be a western school in the SEC East. It’s the modern day equivalent of Judas’s “30 pieces of silver” and now we just wait for Mizzou to hang itself from a tree.
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So Deaton trying to do the job that Bebee was paid to do and not even reposition to help Mizzou get a "better deal" at our own expense, trying to save a dying conference at the hands of bevo's own fickleness? Then after it becomes clear bevo won't lift a finger to help anyone else and insists on it's own media rights and conference Mizzou is finally THE LAST to leave, yet "it's all our fault" according to these idiot tsips!
Conference died the moment Nebraska left. In football, conference strength is all about how many crown jewel programs you have. The Big 12 had three with Nebraska, Texas and Oklahoma. Once Nebraska left, though, the situation became untenable. Colorado’s departure was fait accompli and that was that.
This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 11:13 pm
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:16 pm to TSipper
TSipper hates him some mizzou....
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:18 pm to TSipper
Where Texas did make a mistake, though, was in not pursuing Florida State, Miami, Clemson and Georgia Tech at all costs. Then we should have granted Notre Dame Big 12 status in all sports save football in exchange for them playing 6 games against the conference each year.
Once Nebraska and Colorado left, the conference needed to expand into TV markets or else it was going to be left in the same situation the old SWC was and that's just not a long term viable situation.
Had we been able to land the ACC 4, we could have reformed around a 12-team conference of the ACC 4, the Texas 4 (TCU, Tech, Baylor, Tech) and the Kansas-Oklahoma 4. That would have given the new Big 12 4 crown jewel programs (ND playing 6 games would have been massive), a historical power in Miami and solid second tier schools in Clemson, Tech, Ok State, Kansas State and Georgia Tech.
That's on DeLoss Dodds, Joe Castiglione and the rest as this should have been done.
Once Nebraska and Colorado left, the conference needed to expand into TV markets or else it was going to be left in the same situation the old SWC was and that's just not a long term viable situation.
Had we been able to land the ACC 4, we could have reformed around a 12-team conference of the ACC 4, the Texas 4 (TCU, Tech, Baylor, Tech) and the Kansas-Oklahoma 4. That would have given the new Big 12 4 crown jewel programs (ND playing 6 games would have been massive), a historical power in Miami and solid second tier schools in Clemson, Tech, Ok State, Kansas State and Georgia Tech.
That's on DeLoss Dodds, Joe Castiglione and the rest as this should have been done.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:21 pm to TSipper
GFY Tsipper.
There wasn't a motherfrickin thing that could be done to stop the Aggies from joining the SEC. The legislature wasn't even in session, and the Governor was an Aggie.
I remember one politician that made some noise but when he found out getting involved would end his political career, he decided to stfu.
Why don't you go back to shaggywhatever.
I bet stronghorns are shiteing all over your midget coach.
There wasn't a motherfrickin thing that could be done to stop the Aggies from joining the SEC. The legislature wasn't even in session, and the Governor was an Aggie.
I remember one politician that made some noise but when he found out getting involved would end his political career, he decided to stfu.
Why don't you go back to shaggywhatever.
I bet stronghorns are shiteing all over your midget coach.
This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 11:22 pm
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