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re: Finebaum weighs in.
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:09 am to DWag215
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:09 am to DWag215
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It's not about the "perfect" title, just about a legitimate one.
It's legit. They won it on the field. The records can be amended if the NCAA finds wrong doing (which they haven't, so no reason to think it will happen now). However, even with the records altered, everybody will still remember Auburn as the 2010 champion. Just like how USC is still the "on the field champion" for the 2004 season, even though that year has no champion per the record books.
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:13 am to noladan
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You should care because AU doesn't receive the national recognition and respect associated with winning a MNC.
They do have national recognition with the AP/Coaches/BCS Trophies. Only pussy insecure people worry about what other people think.
This post was edited on 4/4/13 at 11:13 am
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:15 am to DWag215
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Most people already look at [Auburn's 2010 BCS Title] as a tainted championship.
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God it must suck to be Auburn.
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DWag215
When people look at Texas A&M BCS championship what do they see? Oh, wait...
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:18 am to BamaChemE
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The records can be amended if the NCAA finds wrong doing (which they haven't, so no reason to think it will happen now).
Given the NCAA's recent track record, I'm not sure how much weight people give their inaction or absence of findings.
Pawl touched on this in the linked interview. Described the NCAA's efforts in the Cam investigation as an "epic fail."
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:23 am to piggidyphish
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That 2010 NC will always have an asterisk mark next to it!
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Where?
In the hearts and minds of those associated with college football. And if that doesn't matter to you, why give a damn about how your program performs?
If the shite continues to hit the fan, it will be interesting to see how the college football hall of fame coming to Atlanta represents the 2010 title.
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:23 am to DWag215
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Pawl touched on this in the linked interview. Described the NCAA's efforts in the Cam investigation as an "epic fail."
You just lost all credibility there
The fact that you used PF to make any legitimate point
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:24 am to DWag215
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Pawl
Why do you keep doing that?
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:24 am to RandySavage
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When people look at Texas A&M BCS championship what do they see? Oh, wait...
I guess the salient point is that I don't want the type of BCS title AU earned--that which is given only nominal recognition (i.e. hardware).
It's like a pseudo-title. Yes, you see the trophy and the banners. You can feel and read the shirts. But the title doesn't elicit the type of feeling associated with most. At least that's how I'd feel.
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:26 am to DEG
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In the hearts and minds of those associated with college football
Ok, so disgruntled fans and nowhere tangible. I can live with that.
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And if that doesn't matter to you, why give a damn about how your program performs
I'm very interested in how my program performs. WHich is why i was celebrating my teams national title.
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If the shite continues to hit the fan, it will be interesting to see how the college football hall of fame coming to Atlanta represents the 2010 title
Well if this is the measuring stick we have to live up to then it's worse than i thought.
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:27 am to DWag215
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It's like a pseudo-title
nope it's real. I watched it. Even thought about going to walmart to celebrate it.
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But the title doesn't elicit the type of feeling associated with most
Well unfortunately we only ahve one bcs title so i can't compare it to any others...but it was fricking exhilerating to win so i'll have to defer to you on how I should have felt. how'd you react to yours?
This post was edited on 4/4/13 at 11:28 am
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:27 am to LanierSpots
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Why do you keep doing that?
Dunno.
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The fact that you used PF to make any legitimate point
Whether he's a troll is of no moment. He has the ear of many--he can shape and mold perception. He has influence. And not just in B-ham or the surrounding areas. He's syndicated.
Hell, he was one of the first analysts called by Bristol to discuss the matter.
This post was edited on 4/4/13 at 11:28 am
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:29 am to DWag215
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At least that's how I'd feel.
No one will give a damn about the opinion of someone who has never been there. It's like that a-hole couple that criticizes parenting of others when they themselves have no kids.
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:29 am to DWag215
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Described the NCAA's efforts in the Cam investigation as an "epic fail."
Which means, they didn't find anything. Which means you can choose one of three paths:
1) Swear up and down Auburn cheated and they should have their titles stripped, trees poisoned, land salted, testicles removed, and stadium burned to the ground.
2) Take the fact that the NCAA found nothing and proclaim Auburn as clean as a virgin's honey pot, and forcefully argue with anyone who says otherwise.
3) Accept that the investigation failed to find wrongdoing, but admit that there were some holes and take everything with a grain salt. Accept that Auburn won on the field and are guilty of nothing more than any other major D1 program. Move on and let it go.
I personally choose the third option. I was in the student section for the Camback. I was disappointed, and did not want Auburn to win the BCS. They did. No biggie. Congrats on the 2010 title.
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:30 am to DEG
quote:Good lord...
In the hearts and minds of those associated with college football. And if that doesn't matter to you, why give a damn about how your program performs?
Some people just enjoy the accomplishments that they are able to achieve. They don't need validation from others to build up their own achievements. Only the weak minded need others to build up their own lore.
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:30 am to piggidyphish
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Well unfortunately we only ahve one bcs title so i can't compare it to any others...but it was fricking exhilerating to win so i'll have to defer to you on how I should have felt.
I'm sure it was. And if that ends the inquiry, why are you defending it against someone who doesn't understand your exuberance?
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:32 am to DEG
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No one will give a damn about the opinion of someone who has never been there. It's like that a-hole couple that criticizes parenting of others when they themselves have no kids.
Sure doesn't seem that way--at least no based on the reactions to my posts.
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:32 am to DEG
In my heart, teams with 2 losses don't win BCS Titles....
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:33 am to DWag215
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I'm sure it was. And if that ends the inquiry, why are you defending it against someone who doesn't understand your exuberance?
Because what else is there to do(believe it or not i'm not part of the team trying to cure cancer)...flip that quesiton, why are you intent on trying to diminsih or distinguish our title?
This post was edited on 4/4/13 at 11:36 am
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:33 am to piggidyphish
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Piggi
Sounds like you have it all figured out. Kudos.
Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:35 am to lowspark12
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In my heart, teams with 2 losses don't win BCS Titles
Congrats. You've reached the argumentative debate level of a third grader.
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