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re: Every SEC School will Make Serious Money--More than ND, Texas

Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:11 pm to
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75 million viewers
6 million in Missouri

They should get a proportional share.

Tx- 24 million
FL - 19 million

Big 2


Proportional to viewers, or proportional to putting something on the field that fans want to watch?

Texas A&M has an argument.

Florida does not.
Posted by roadGator
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139808 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:11 pm to
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I, for one, would like to thank our Texas A&M brethren for bringing in such a large bounty, while not being total choads like that other school in the state.


Agreed. This doesn't get done without them. Aggies
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:17 pm to
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On a serious note, these new revenue streams about going to make HC salaries even more ridiculous.

NFL guys will have to consider the massive salaries that some schools are going to be willing to pay.


Agree with this. The difference between SEC coaches and the NFL is getting smaller and smaller. The life of a college coach is also a much easier one than the NFL as well. The NFL is a parity based model that has things like the Salary Cap and reverse order Draft to keep the difference from best to worst small. College is a "Rich get richer" model where rich schools can develop massive advantages over other schools that actually make it easier as you are more successful. Winning means more money and better recruiting. Build up a great program, hire great assistants, and really a HC can act more like a CEO.

College HC's also have much more power in general than NFL HC's, unless they are HC/GM's. A college HC is accountable to the AD of course but the power in that relationship is often with the HC and they usually have complete control over personnel and how the football operation is run.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:19 pm to
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Proportional to viewers, or proportional to putting something on the field that fans want to watch?

Texas A&M has an argument.

Florida does not.


You can't be dumb enough to believe that.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:23 pm to
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Because of Los Angeles? If not, this doesn't make any sense.


how so?
Posted by TabledTiger
Venice
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Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:25 pm to
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how so?


Half the households and 12 million more dollars a year....that doesn't make any sense.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:26 pm to
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You can't be dumb enough to believe that.


I'm just saying you guys have been pretty boring to watch the past couple of years ;)
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:27 pm to
they charged more and pac 12 contracts negotiated at a later date.
Posted by anc
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Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:28 pm to
I read where poor little MSU will have a $100 million athletic budget by 2016.

That's insane to me, growing up when we paid Jackie Sherrill $75,000 while he was taking us to bowl games and castrating bulls.

Posted by Monsters and Men
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:29 pm to
From what I understand, the Pac 12 Network has more subscribers paying a higher premium than the Big 10 Network. So even though the Big 10 Network has more people, their average cost for a subscriber is less than half of what the Pac 12 is making per subscriber.

The Pac 12 number is just an estimate though. We'll see later what they're actually making per subscriber.
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 12:34 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:31 pm to
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Because of Los Angeles? If not, this doesn't make any sense.


Neither the B1G, and especially not the PAC12, are carried by as many cable/sat providers as the SEC is right out of the chute.

I think, if that's the question you are asking, is why there is such disparity in that regard.
Posted by p_bubel
San Antonio
Member since Jan 2014
463 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:35 pm to
We're so effin' glad to be in this conference.


Thank you DeLoss Dodds!
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 12:38 pm
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:37 pm to
That is insane Money.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:40 pm to
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scrooster

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Here we fricking go again.
The SEC's strength is in its whole.
If you wanna play the individual program game go join the Big 12 or something.

Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79990 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:44 pm to
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Because of Los Angeles? If not, this doesn't make any sense.


Let's look at the top 50 markets each network has in its footprint: (give 50 points for #1, 1 point for #50)

1-New York (NONE - Rutgers is in NJ)
2-Los Angeles (PAC 12)
3-Chicago (Big Ten)
4-Philadelphia (Big Ten)
5-Dallas/FW (SEC)
6-San Francisco (PAC 12)
7-Boston (NONE)
8-Atlanta (SEC)
9-Washington D.C. (NONE)
10-Houston (SEC)
11-Detroit (Big Ten)
12-Phoenix (PAC 12)
13-Tampa (SEC)
14-Seattle (PAC 12)
15-Minneapolis (Big Ten)
16-Miami (SEC)
17-Cleveland (Big Ten)
18-Denver (PAC 12)
19-Orlando (SEC)
20-Sacramento (PAC 12)
21-St. Louis (SEC - ESL doesn't count)
22-Portland (PAC 12)
23-Pittsburgh (Big Ten)
24-Charlotte (NONE)
25-Indianapolis (Big Ten)
26-Baltimore (Big Ten)
27-Raleigh (NONE)
28-San Diego (PAC 12)
29-Nashville (SEC)
30-Hartford (NONE)
31-Kansas City (SEC)
32-Columbus (Big Ten)
33-SLC (PAC 12)
34-Cincinnati (Big Ten)
35-Milwaukee (Big Ten)
36-Greenville/Spartanburg (SEC?)
37-San Antonio (SEC)
38-West Palm Beach (SEC)
39-Grand Rapids (Big Ten)
40-Birmingham (SEC)
41-Harrisburg (Big Ten)
42-Las Vegas (NONE)
43-Norfolk (NONE)
44-Albuquerque (NONE)
45-Oklahoma City (NONE)
46-Winston Salem (NONE)
47-Jacksonville (SEC)
48-Memphis (SEC)
49-Austin (SEC)
50-Louisville (SEC)

By my score:

Big Ten - 358
PAC 12 - 304
SEC - 370
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:45 pm to
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Because of Los Angeles? If not, this doesn't make any sense.


Because a vast majority of those 26 million households is within the PAC12 footprint, where the rates are higher. The Big 10 has more households, but a higher percentage is outside of their footprint, meaning a lower subscription rate than within their footprint.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:52 pm to
Schools should seriously consider going down on ticket pricing/donation reqs, at least a little bit. Give something back to the fans that make their fat tv contract so.. fat.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:00 pm to
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Schools should seriously consider going down on ticket pricing/donation reqs, at least a little bit. Give something back to the fans that make their fat tv contract so.. fat.


Yeah, good luck with that.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:05 pm to
yep, already posted this yesterday:
LINK

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Let's look at the top 50 markets each network has in its footprint: (give 50 points for #1, 1 point for #50)



look, bringing in San Antonio/Dallas-FW/Houston/STL/KC markets was absolute genius. All hail the expansion era victors... Mike Slive and the SEC!

It's as simple as that.


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Proportional to viewers, or proportional to putting something on the field that fans want to watch?
Texas A&M has an argument.
Florida does not.



blah blah blah,, Aggie and Mizzou both brought in a lot more tv sets than a number of states and some of them have 2 shares going to them instead of one, so what, the SEC will succeed where the bevo12 failed by not alienating it's own members.

If you really think that's a good idea, put a Dan Beebe in charge and let a couple of schools run the show and see what happens...

as for me... NO THANKS!


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Schools should seriously consider going down on ticket pricing/donation reqs, at least a little bit. Give something back to the fans that make their fat tv contract so.. fat.


agree, for example Mizzou should put in corner seats on the north end and keep them very nearly the same price as SRO hill which is what they are now. No matter how you slice it, a corner seat is never really that good.

This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 1:13 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
37599 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:06 pm to
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24-Charlotte (NONE)


SEC ... it's 77 miles from Columbia and it's an SEC town, perhaps moreso than Atlanta.

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7-Boston (NONE)


ACC ... Boston College

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27-Raleigh (NONE)


ACC ... part of the RTP and home to NC State.

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50-Louisville (SEC)


ACC/SEC split.

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16-Miami (SEC)


ACC/SEC split.

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36-Greenville/Spartanburg (SEC?)


ACC/SEC split.



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