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re: ESPN on AU softball

Posted on 8/26/17 at 7:12 pm to
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22332 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 7:12 pm to
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Jay Jacobs is toast.


Please Sweet Jesus.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 7:14 pm to
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Let me guess... he treated them like other coaches treat their male athletes instead of pampering them?


Well if other coaches let their kids bang the athletes and then cut team mates that complain about it, then yeah that's exactly what happened.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11454 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 8:15 pm to
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I can see how the coach (wrong as it was) decided to protect his son at all costs but how the frick does an associate AD decide it is a good idea to do anything other than make a beeline to the Title IX office the very second he get wind of the problem? It is really some alternate universe where telling them to wipe their phones seems like the correct course of action. Hope that guy (or gal) likes selling insurance or cars because they probably just ended their career in athletics administration.


Yeah, it gets better, she's a woman and she threatened the girls with arrest for obtaining the incriminating texts from the victim's cell phone.

Sounds like that Title IX office is going to have their hands full.
Posted by Lordofwrath88
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
6855 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 9:50 pm to
Thanks for the lols Jay Jacobs, don't let the barn door hit you on the way out.

This post was edited on 8/26/17 at 9:51 pm
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33446 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 10:32 pm to
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Everybody protected Coach. Nobody protected us


You know your situation is fricked up when Haley Fagan looks like a "good guy" and a "victim".
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 6:52 am to
Also Auburn has a new president who is more hands on. The old president did not care about sports. The new one does.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30593 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:01 am to
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Also Auburn has a new president who is more hands on.
In this particular situation, I believe that I'd have used a different cliche.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:01 am to
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Yeah, it gets better, she's a woman and she threatened the girls with arrest for obtaining the incriminating texts from the victim's cell phone.

Sounds like that Title IX office is going to have their hands full.


As is often the case this isn't correct. The girl who had the text taken had filed a charge against the other girls. The AAD was suggesting deleting the info. Still, not good, but it shows defense of the players and not the coach.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:34 am to
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As is often the case this isn't correct. The girl who had the text taken had filed a charge against the other girls. The AAD was suggesting deleting the info. Still, not good, but it shows defense of the players and not the coach.



If by 'filed a charge' you mean a formal complaint with either university or law enforcement officials, what she told them to do was destroy evidence. That isn't looking out for the players at all. If it involved LE, she committed a crime.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:40 am to
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Was this the paramour?




FIFY, and no.

Edit: Meant to say that this is the young lady alleging abusive treatment.



She lists her hometown as Auburn, Alabama. I imagine she grew up wanting to play for Auburn. Sometimes, dreams don't work out.

Auburn Softball

SMH
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 8:28 am
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2009
13182 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 8:10 am to
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Auburn has an excellent title Ix office

Y'all would.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30593 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 8:30 am to
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quote:
Auburn has an excellent title Ix office

Y'all would.

The sign on the door reads:

TITLE IX OFFICE/

ANIMAL HUSBANDRY DEPT

hrs. 9:00 A.M.- 4:00 P.M.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 8:52 am to
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If by 'filed a charge' you mean a formal complaint with either university or law enforcement officials, what she told them to do was destroy evidence. That isn't looking out for the players at all. If it involved LE, she committed a crime.



Seems she filed a compliant with law enforcement. I agree telling them to get rid of it looks bad, but I believe she did it in an effort to protect the girls and not the coach. To the knowledge of the AAD all the coach did at that point was have a consensual relationship with a girl which violated his contract. The harassment stuff hadn't come to full light and the majority of it that is alleged happened after the texts messages were seized.

I am not defending anyone's actions, but I do get frustrated when people either purposely or out of ignorance misrepresent information. Truth is this is bad, you don't have to spin it to make it look bad.
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 8:54 am
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:09 am to
Why wasn't this coach cut after the internal investigation?

He broke his contract by fooling around with a player, consensual or not. Once the Admin found out, they could have canned him.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:22 am to
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Why wasn't this coach cut after the internal investigation?

He broke his contract by fooling around with a player, consensual or not. Once the Admin found out, they could have canned him.


He was sent packing in Sept '16, but then players recanted their statements. It isn't clear if this was voluntary or the head coach Clint asked for it of them. When it was revealed the second time he was sent packing. Clint covering it up is the ugliest part of this IMO...unless more comes from ESPN's statements of harassment. One player has already taken to Twitter to refute the quoted players version. I have no doubt something ugly went down, but it probably won't be what most think.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:31 am to
Well, y'all had a championship level coaching staff assembled so it's somewhat understandable that AU would take their time and try to let things work themselves out. Of course dealing with a large group of young females you never know how bad or dramatic things can get.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:36 am to
Its against the law for consenting adults to have a relationship? I realize its against university policy and that he should have fired the son. I dont see how this violates Title 9?
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:38 am to
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I dont see how this violates Title 9?


I would assume the harassment aspects are the issue. Also, if the AD didn't follow proper protocol. I do believe if you read the info it is possible the AD did what it was supposed to do when it knew certain things, etc...though some cover up attempt isn't implausible.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:42 am to
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Yeah, it gets better, she's a woman and she threatened the girls with arrest for obtaining the incriminating texts from the victim's cell phone.


Stealing texts from someones phone and using that against them is a crime. Not smart to suggest destroying evidence, but im sure it was an attempt to legally protect the girls.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30593 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:51 am to
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Its against the law for consenting adults to have a relationship? I realize its against university policy and that he should have fired the son. I dont see how this violates Title 9?

Maybe he didn't buy her dinner?
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