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Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 8/12/13 at 2:02 pm to
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No, but that would be the last time he set foot in my home as long as he was gay
You sound like a shitty parent.
Posted by thatguy1892
That place you wish you were.
Member since Aug 2011
4628 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 2:04 pm to
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Well your son would need two chances to try it. The first try he would get his arse beat at home and need a lot of things to go right before he could back his way into having another shot.


Or you could turn the other cheek, but you might not be comfortable with that.
Posted by NorthReb
Michigan
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 8/12/13 at 2:06 pm to
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You sound like a shitty parent.
he reminds me of...
Posted by boddagetta
Moulton
Member since Mar 2011
9999 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 2:07 pm to
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I just find it ironic that everyone is judging HIM for being judgmental



And you're judging them for judging HIM for being judgemental.




Posted by thatguy1892
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Posted on 8/12/13 at 2:08 pm to
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Ahhhh...I see the problem, then. You don't understand HOW to read it. (This is not a slam) A LOT of people don't understand that the Bible is NOT "A" book, but it is made up of a lot of different books, written towards different groups of people at different times. You have to understand who it was written to and why it was written to them. (Sorry. My English Lit background is showing)



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I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto them, God shall add unto him the plagues which are written in this book: and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city, which are written in this book. (Rev.22:18-19)


First Council of Nicaea.

Whoops, looks like no one has ever read it correctly.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58925 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 2:08 pm to
It's shocking to me the reaction he is getting. I mean...they are judging HIM for being judgmental?

Wow.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58925 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 2:11 pm to
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•33% of the players believe they have gay team mates (woah).


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77% of them were wrong on that one




Something doesn't add up here.




Oops. Sucks when you make a mistake like that on this site and see that there are three more pages after you said it.


Cause you KNOW everybody else saw it, and you can do nothing about it! I feel your pain, brother!
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58925 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 2:15 pm to
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You'd have a much easier time defending him if his computer went dead.




I DO agree more closely with Moustache, however, whether or not we agree with the other guy...he IS entitled to his opinion, is he not? Everyone is slamming him...seems a bit like people are trying a little bit of thought control.

And I can't imagine why thought control is any more acceptable that what he is saying.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58925 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 2:17 pm to
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And you're judging them for judging HIM for being judgemental.



And you are judging me for judging them for judging him for being....oh, never mind! This is getting WAAAY too complicated!
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58925 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 2:21 pm to
And what makes you think the findings and of the Council was wrong?

Besides, (and I could be wrong, because it has been awhile since I studied the Council) if I remember correctly the council was not adding to or subtracting to the Bible, but discussing and deciding church orthodoxy and liturgical elements....they didn't change the Bible......IF i remember correctly.
This post was edited on 8/12/13 at 2:26 pm
Posted by Loathor
Columbia, SC
Member since Jun 2012
2369 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 2:21 pm to
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Ahhhh...I see the problem, then. You don't understand HOW to read it. (This is not a slam) A LOT of people don't understand that the Bible is NOT "A" book, but it is made up of a lot of different books, written towards different groups of people at different times. You have to understand who it was written to and why it was written to them. (Sorry. My English Lit background is showing)



There's no continuity, though. As a story, even spread out over many books, it doesn't make sense half the time if read as a whole. Even taken as an anthology it is lacking in direction and the "message" changes so much from book to book that there isn't really a coherent plot.

If you take other works of literature that were presented in grouping of books (Dune, LOTR, Tarzan or Sherlock Holmes stories for instance) the story stays relatively consistent throughout. The Bible on the other hand varies from new to old testament so much as to draw two completely different pictures.

Don't get me wrong, there are some really great passages in there that shine through, but as a whole it is not even remotely the greatest book ever written, or the best story ever told. It's an amalgamation of fables thrown together in the hopes of shaping the way people lived their lives hundreds to thousands of years ago. But as such, it is still lacking (IMO...).
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
37741 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 2:24 pm to
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•33% of the players believe they have gay team mates (woah). ... 31 of the players polled must have been *aggies.

•87% would be fine with having a gay team mate. .... 31 of the players polled definitely were *aggies.

•49% believe at least one teammate takes PEDs. ... meh. So does 49% of the entire male population of the world in one form or another. WTF do you think Cialis and Viagra are?

•40% have seen 3-5 NCAA violations in the past year, 42% have seen 9+ violations. ... again, 31 of the 92 players polled were *aggies, obviously.

•42% would like a 16 team playoff. 40% like 8 team. ... the entire college football world wants at least 8 with most wanting 16. No news there.

•53% said Saban was best coach, Urban Meyer in second with 12%. ... Urbie, the man, the myth, the legend. lulz

•Todd Graham and Lane Kiffin were picked as coaches the players wouldn't want to play for. ... Kiffin is done with Pat Hayden reads that. Stick a fork in him.

And lastly, 100% said they do not wear a cup lol. ... what was that stupid frickin question even asked?

And what happened to the dating of the coach's daughter question?

What happened to the best player in the country question?

Posted by wf119
Member since Aug 2013
205 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 2:33 pm to
So you would put yourself in the same category as Hitler? You lie which is a sin, he killed millions, killing is a sin.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58925 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 2:34 pm to
Nononono...I apologize. You are misunderstanding what I meant. It is unique in that each book is stand alone...yet connected. The best way I can explain it, would be that the books are a continuation (Sequel, maybe...for understanding), yet they also stand alone. ALSO, what makes the difficult is that they are not in chronological order. There are some reasons for that, but it DOES make it difficult. But, hey...I found the Canterbury Tales and impossible read, too! However, there is a certain poetry to the Bible. (I should admit, that I am a believer, so I put more effort into understanding and following what it says.) Depending on how you read it, it can be absolutely fascinating...although, it CAN be very confusing depending on the translation you use. "The Message" is a VERY easy translation to understand, yet it has it's own set of problems, too. But hey. This si a sports board, not a religion board. The whole purpose of the thread and board has been hi-jacked, and I apologize for my part in it.

Football is what we are here to discuss. Hope you were not offended by me. (However, I hope you are a bit more offended by me after the Georgia/SouCar game!)
Posted by thatguy1892
That place you wish you were.
Member since Aug 2011
4628 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 2:36 pm to
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And what makes you think the findings and of the Council was wrong?

Besides, (and I could be wrong, because it has been awhile since I studied the Council) if I remember correctly the council was not adding to or subtracting to the Bible, but discussing and deciding church orthodoxy and liturgical elements....they didn't change the Bible......IF i remember correctly.



Because the council left out books, writings, and teachings. It compiled the books including Revelations to "compromise" with the christian factions that were spread across the world at the at the time. Also, it was organized by by the Roman Emperor Constantine I as a way to strengthen his military and slow the impending fall of the Roman Empire by "uniting" people by a means of religion. Happened quite frequently back then.
Posted by thatguy1892
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/12/13 at 2:37 pm to
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killing is a sin.


So is hate. That's why multiple times in the bible it says to love one another and forgive thy brother.
Posted by thatguy1892
That place you wish you were.
Member since Aug 2011
4628 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 2:40 pm to
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•Todd Graham and Lane Kiffin were picked as coaches the players wouldn't want to play for. ... Kiffin is done with Pat Hayden reads that. Stick a fork in him.


I think that goes without saying. People were freaking out because Hayden said he was "behind his coach," but what was he suppose to say? "Yeah, frick that guy this is his last year?"
Posted by Loathor
Columbia, SC
Member since Jun 2012
2369 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 2:43 pm to
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Nononono...I apologize. You are misunderstanding what I meant. It is unique in that each book is stand alone...yet connected. The best way I can explain it, would be that the books are a continuation (Sequel, maybe...for understanding), yet they also stand alone. ALSO, what makes the difficult is that they are not in chronological order. There are some reasons for that, but it DOES make it difficult. But, hey...I found the Canterbury Tales and impossible read, too! However, there is a certain poetry to the Bible. (I should admit, that I am a believer, so I put more effort into understanding and following what it says.) Depending on how you read it, it can be absolutely fascinating...although, it CAN be very confusing depending on the translation you use. "The Message" is a VERY easy translation to understand, yet it has it's own set of problems, too. But hey. This si a sports board, not a religion board. The whole purpose of the thread and board has been hi-jacked, and I apologize for my part in it.

Football is what we are here to discuss. Hope you were not offended by me. (However, I hope you are a bit more offended by me after the Georgia/SouCar game!)



I take no offense at the opinions of others, and hope none is taken from mine.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19229 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 2:43 pm to
I wore a cup in baseball as I was a catcher. I've taken enough wayward curves to the groin to appreciate the benefits of a cup.

And cups work! I was a sniper when trying to get my wife pregnant: one shot, one kill.

Sucked because I was ripped off of all the time sex because of my virility.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58925 posts
Posted on 8/12/13 at 2:45 pm to
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Because the council left out books, writings, and teachings.


But what you are not understanding..(or perhaps you were taught incorrectly?) NONE of the books were written at the same time and none of them were together as one book. The Council was there to (Hopefully through God's guidance) decide which books were inspired by God, and therefore God's Word, and which were not. Same for teachings. Just because someone wrote a book back then, did not make that book inspired by God. Their job, was to find the books that were consistent with God's character, and teachings and
guided by God, figure out which were divinely inspired.


And just because something was done for military reasons does not necessarily mean that God did not use these events to put all of the divinely inspired books of God together to form one book...the Bible. God, In my opinion, uses earthly events all the time to accomplish His will. To believe as you...would mean that no man could ever be inspired by God. I find that sad.

Look, I am not trying to change your mind, simply laying out what I believe. As I told the other poster, this is a football board and a football thread. If you would like to talk religion, I would be happy to give you my e-mail address.....I didn't mean to sidetrack us.
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