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Posted by mtn cur
south
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:19 pm to
vs SEC teams

completion %
hurts 65.3
dobbs 62.8

Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:21 pm to
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WOW amazing stats Hurts has vs a senior


Hurts is awesome but this is about the best player at each position in 2016, which by every metric available is Dobbs
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:23 pm to
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which by every metric available is Dobbs


You mean other than wins?
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:24 pm to
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Hurts is awesome but this is about the best player at each position in 2016, which by every metric available is Dobbs



Fitz would be the best by multiple metrics actually. Except winning games, which is paramount for a QB, and Hurts seems to be pretty good at it.
Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:24 pm to
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DL: Arden Key, LSU


Would have put Adams in over him

Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:26 pm to
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You mean other than wins?


Alabama won plenty of games despite pedestrian performances by Hurts.

Adam Griffith is the best kicker in the SEC going by your line of thinking, correct?
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:26 pm to
Only 4 East players lol
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 1:27 pm
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:27 pm to
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quote:
which by every metric available is Dobbs


You mean other than wins?

It's not a team award. It's for individual accomplishments. I wouldn't have a problem if Dobbs is 1st team. Hurts can be 2nd team.
Posted by mtn cur
south
Member since Nov 2016
229 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

Hurts is awesome but this is about the best player at each position in 2016, which by every metric available is Dobbs



i keep waiting for you to say he should be in new york this weekend and he's a 1st rd draft pick
Posted by AU_251
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:27 pm to
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Monty Adams should absolutely be in there.
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
3163 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:27 pm to
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Adam Griffith is the best kicker in the SEC going by your line of thinking, correct?


And Pat Mahomes will be 1st Team All-American by yours.
Posted by m45auburn
Auburn
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:28 pm to
I swear tabor is the most overrated player in the nation
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:28 pm to
Something else that never gets mentioned. No offense to Engram, he's great and all.

But OJ Howard is the best college TE I've ever seen. I know that he hasn't been utilized as much as he probably should have been but how and why is that guy not on everyone's radar?
Posted by mtn cur
south
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:29 pm to
wait until the combine
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:29 pm to
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i keep waiting for you to say he should be in new york this weekend and he's a 1st rd draft pick



Really dumb response. I am ashamed that I have went back and forth with a dullard like yourself.
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:29 pm to
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It's for individual accomplishments.


It's also not an award based on stats alone.
Posted by m45auburn
Auburn
Member since Aug 2014
4467 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:30 pm to
He has bricks for hands, is a subpar route runner, and an average blocker. He's an exceptional athlete, but not a well rounded tight end.
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:30 pm to
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I swear tabor is the most overrated player in the nation


He's not even the best CB on his own team imo
Posted by m45auburn
Auburn
Member since Aug 2014
4467 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:31 pm to
Sure he gets some picks, but he is good to get burned deep twice a game.
Posted by UAtide11
Member since Apr 2014
2190 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:33 pm to
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which by every metric available is Dobbs


stats aren't everything. You have to give context to the stats.

For instance, Western Michigan is undefeated as is Alabama. That doesn't make them equal.

Dobbs down the stretch, had South Carolina, TN Tech, Kentucky, Missouri, and Vanderbilt. Whereas Hurts had LSU, Ms State, UT Chatt, Auburn, and Florida. Those defenses are

Total Defense Rankings

LSU (13)
Ms State (110)
UT- Chatt (6 - FCS)
Auburn (20)
Florida (6)

average = 31 (w/o FCS = 37)

South Carolina (62)
TN Tech (80 - FCS)
Kentucky (88)
Missouri(118)
Vandy (65)

average = 83 (w/o FCS = 83)


FWIW, in the last three games (25%) of the season, Dobbs accounted for:

55% of his rushing yards
40% of his rushing TDs

last four (33.3%) of his games
36% of his passing yards
42% of his passing TDs
8% of his INTs


This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 1:43 pm
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