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re: ESPN - Two SEC writers discuss, Who has the best overall talent, Ala or LSU

Posted on 8/7/16 at 7:50 pm to
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
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Posted on 8/7/16 at 7:50 pm to
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Special year in the making... pumped!


Very special, with LSU returning so much talent. And as for the coaching side of it, Aranda is LSU's answer for beating Alabama this year. Even with the losses, Bama still has great coaching talent.
Posted by East Coast Band
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Posted on 8/7/16 at 7:50 pm to
I hope LF7 doesn't pull a last sesson Clowney .
Posted by Porcine Human
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Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 8/7/16 at 7:51 pm to
Alabama has way, way more talent on defense. Offense is probably pretty similar, but Bama's D-line and LBs are clearly better and more talented than LSU's.
This post was edited on 8/7/16 at 7:52 pm
Posted by Number 31
St. Tammany
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 8/7/16 at 7:55 pm to
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He bases this on the strength of the LSU recruiting class? Does he realize that Alabama's class was better?

LSU has a great team. They MIGHT win the SEC. But that guys reasoning is way off.

I mean, you have a point here.

I've tempered my expectations for the time being. I'm trying not to get too excited before a game has even been played.

We may be good enough to win the SEC. We may not.

We may be greatly improved, and still finish the regular season at 9-3.

Personally, I'm hoping for the best but going in without any preset expectations for how we'll perform this season.
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 8:00 pm to
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Alabama has way, way more talent on defense.


I want whatever you're drinking, it's obviously way, way more intoxicating, and I don"'t have to drive.
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
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Posted on 8/7/16 at 8:03 pm to
Posted by FleshEatingSalsa
Floating down the Anduin
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Posted on 8/7/16 at 8:12 pm to
And here's the flip side:

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This is not a slam dunk to me. Though I'm certain that Alabama and LSU have the best rosters in the SEC, I'm not sure there's a discernible difference in terms of overall talent. There are NFL-caliber players at basically every position, and they even share the common trait of not knowing exactly what they will get at quarterback.

If I'm forced to choose -- and that is what we're doing here after all -- I'll side with Alabama. Again, it's a 51-49 proposal. But seeing that team up close this week reminded me of just how many playmakers Nick Saban has who have yet to become household names, but will be in the near future. We all know about Calvin Ridley, O.J. Howard, Cam Robinson, Reuben Foster, Eddie Jackson, Tim Williams, Jonathan Allen, and Minkah Fitzpatrick. If you watched more than a handful of Alabama games last season, then you know what to expect from Da'Ron Payne, Marlon Humphrey, and Rashaan Evans, too.

But the casual fans don't always see the layers of undiscovered talent behind them. I'm talking about Cam Sims and Robert Foster at receiver, Jonah Williams and Lester Cotton on the offensive line, Da'Shawn Hand and Dalvin Tomlinson on the defensive line, and Shaun Dion Hamilton and Christian Miller at linebacker. Ronnie Harrison looks like he'll be a starter the next two seasons at safety.

And here's where I really differentiate Alabama and LSU: quarterback. When I look at Cooper Bateman, David Cornwell, Blake Barnett and Jalen Hurts, I see a more talented group of passers than LSU's. I mean, that's three guys who were the top five at their position coming out of high school. Hurts, who was a four-star but not a top-five guy, is downright explosive with great quickness and a strong arm. Though it might take some time for one of those guys to develop, I just feel that there's more for Saban and his staff to choose from.
Posted by LSUlax17
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 8/7/16 at 8:19 pm to
Insecure U strikes again
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 8:20 pm to
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This is not a slam dunk to me. Though I'm certain that Alabama and LSU have the best rosters in the SEC, I'm not sure there's a discernible difference in terms of overall talent. There are NFL-caliber players at basically every position,


Ala may have no 1 recruiting classes, but judging by the views of these two SEC reporters, LSU and Ala are basically equal. If Ala has recruited better, than LSU obviously develops players well.
Posted by FleshEatingSalsa
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/7/16 at 8:23 pm to
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LSU obviously develops players well.


Agree
Posted by JCinBAMA
North of Huntsville
Member since Oct 2009
17584 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 8:24 pm to
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And here's the flip side:


L5U fans read with one eye shut, so they
can't see the truth.
Posted by UFFan
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 8/7/16 at 8:28 pm to
Once neither wins the NC we can laugh at them both.
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6285 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 8:38 pm to
The teams are not that close honestly. LSU defensive talent is average at best. On offense they have talented RBs and WRs, but their offensive line talent is always overrated.

Bama by far has a more talented Sr and sophomore class. While LSU has a slightly more talented Jr class. Bama incoming freshman class was rated higher as well.

LSU talent level is often overrated. Their last 2 drafts have not been impressive.

Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/7/16 at 8:39 pm to
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LSU and Ala are basically equal


If you believe this there is one huge "except for"
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 8:41 pm to
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And here's the flip side: L5U fans read with one eye shut, so they can't see the truth.


Ala has had no 1 recruiting classes. Here's The flip side, LSU coaches develop players well, since the view among reporters is that they are basically equal in talent.
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6285 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 8:46 pm to
They didn't look close to equal last year. LSU had a Lbers getting trucked by QBs. They got pushed off the ball consistently all night. They were the easiest team in the west for Bama to run against sans Tamu. Not one player on their team flashed amazing talent in that game. While Bama had guys making plays all over the field.

This is a fluff off season article, and nothing more.
This post was edited on 8/7/16 at 8:53 pm
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
14146 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 8:46 pm to
[quote]U make a living off of trolling LSU fans[/quote



I've never seen any poster from any team as obsessed with another school as texag7. Must be a sad little fella
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 8:49 pm to
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This is a fluff off season article, and nothing more.


Just like the NFL where LSU players rule, all fluff.
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 8/7/16 at 8:52 pm to
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They didn't look close to equal last year. LSU had a Lbers getting trucked by QBs. They got pushed off the ball consistently all night. They were the easiest team I the west for Bama to run against sans-serif Tamu. Not one player on their team flashed amazing talent in that game. While Bama had guys making plays all over the field.


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BhamDore
You sir are hilarious. Have an upvote!

Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/7/16 at 8:54 pm to
What has Brandon Harris contributed to be considered a positive asset?
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