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Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:17 pm to meansonny
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:17 pm to meansonny
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1 and 3 make #2 true.
Again, you (as a bama fan) are only looking at the bama side.
1) college football fans like to travel. That includes the opposing team who would like to treat their fans with a trip to tuscaloosa
3) homefield is real. Every team in the country would love to beat Bama. Every team in the country likes their odds much better at home than a neutral site.
You can figure out that 1+3=2.
Hell... you've stated yourself that you see instant momentum with the home and homes that you are scheduling.
The neutral site game is easier to schedule than the H/H because it is a 1 year committment that doesn't require manuevering of your H/H schedule over multiple years. It is a revenue generator that can be tacked on to a year in which you might already have an away game against a P5 team.
It was, during the heyday, an instant eyeball game that would be the primetime game week 1 and draw tons of eyeballs (and still is, see Auburn/Oregon).
It is absolutely, without fail, easier to schedule than a home and home. And to be honest it got a lot of matchups we wouldn't have seen if those matchups required a home and home over the last 10 years
- Alabama/Clemson
- Alabama/Virginia Tech
- LSU/North Carolina
- UGA/Boise St
- LSU/Oregon
- Alabama/Michigan
- Alabama/Wisconsin
- Michigan/Florida
- Alabama/Florida St
- LSU/Miami
- Auburn/Washington
- Auburn/Oregon
So, I don't like the neutral site games, but they were easier to schedule because of
- flexibility
- money
- guarantee of eyeballs and primetime
- short term matchup abilities
As opposed to H/H which have to be scheduled years and years in advance and have to be lined up with other home games to make sure you have enough gate $$$ for the year.
This post was edited on 9/9/19 at 11:20 pm
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Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:18 pm to JETigER
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mighty gators
Is this 2008?
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:19 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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the desire to add another conference game, as well as the desire to go to all P5 games.
Well... your conference game adds Vandy, Kentucky, and Missouri. You're already stuck with Tennessee.
These arent exciting games.
And you get the best of the East in Atlanta in December.
Sorry. "More conference games" is more average and below average than the high profile that he is selling your fanbase.
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which explains the home and homes
Do more. Why stop at 1?
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:21 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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- Alabama/Clemson
- Alabama/Virginia Tech
- LSU/North Carolina
- UGA/Boise St
- LSU/Oregon
- Alabama/Michigan
- Alabama/Wisconsin
- Michigan/Florida
- Alabama/Florida St
- LSU/Miami
- Auburn/Washington
- Auburn/Oregon
You know that all of those teams listed as an opponent for Bama do a better job scheduling home and homes than Bama?
It is true.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:21 pm to meansonny
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Sorry. "More conference games" is more average and below average than the high profile that he is selling your fanbase.
Perhaps - but playing UGA in Athens once every 4 years instead of every 8, or Carolina in Columbia, or Florida in Gainesville.........people want that. I want that.
Personally, I'd be fine playing 8 games and just dumping all of us in a bucket. The divisional thing is a relic of the past and there is no reason for us to play Arkansas and Texas A&M every season. It makes no sense.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:22 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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As opposed to H/H which have to be scheduled years and years in advance and have to be lined up with other home games to make sure you have enough gate $$$ for the year
You sound like you are making excuses for your AD.
Every fooking school has to do this, you know? Go down your list of neutral site opponents. They do it better than you.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:22 pm to Scruffy
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Seriously though, your schedule has been Duke,
Some of you frickers act like you've been watching SEC football for the first time this season. Are y'all really this fricking clueless about how the Chick Fil A opener gets scheduled?
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:24 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Personally, I'd be fine playing 8 games and just dumping all of us in a bucket. The divisional thing is a relic of the past and there is no reason for us to play Arkansas and Texas A&M every season. It makes no sense.
I'm with you 1000 percent. I have no allegiance to Kentucky, Vandy, Scar, Tennessee, or Mizzou. Or at least... it is the same as the allegiance to the powerhouses of the West:Arkie, Ole Miss, Miss St, A&M.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:25 pm to meansonny
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You know that all of those teams listed as an opponent for Bama do a better job scheduling home and homes than Bama?
- LSU's last good home and home series was Virginia Tech when Saban was there, MAYBE Arizona State 15 years ago? Their best games have all been neutral site (Oregon, TCU, Wisconsin (2x), Miami)
- Auburn's only home and home series in the last 10 years was Clemson (twice) and Washington State (worst team in P5 at the time Washington State)
- Wisconsin is notoriously AWFUL at OOC schedules - their only good OOC schedules in the last decade have been playing Alabama and LSU 2x (all neutral site)
- Washington's OOC schedules have also been abysmal - their H/H power 5 games the last 5 years : Illinois, Rutgers, @ Rutgers (their best game, Auburn, neutral site)
- Oregon has played.......Michigan State and Tennessee? Virginia? Their 2 best OOC games have been Auburn and LSU (neutral site)
Come on man - this is silly
This post was edited on 9/9/19 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:26 pm to meansonny
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You sound like you are making excuses for your AD.
I'm not really talking about Alabama, I'm talking about other schools in general who openly talk about these things.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:26 pm to WarEagleTho
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Bama plays noon games for their crappy OOC games because no one watches Alabama when they play crappy OOC games. It’s honestly that simple.
You realize that Bama is frequently forced into those slots so frequently because it is the ONLY SEC team that will draw a TV audience against a shite OOC team early in the day? That's why the rest of you get to play some of your shite teams at night.
It's honestly that simple.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:26 pm to SummerOfGeorge
A thread summary for anyone joining the discussion late:
- Alabana administration thinks they’re too good for the sun. Many of their fans agree, citing various reasons (sunburn, sweat, inability to afford sunscreen, and something called “stinking sis”). They feel as though the SEC is scheming against them. Nick Saban actually apologized to the fans for the weather. The idea of LSU + SEC + Mother Nature scheming against Alabana has been thrown around.
- Other members of the SEC view this as bombastic, weak, and embarrassing. They reference everyone doing it and advise Alabana fans to quit crying.
- It was noted that LSU rarely ever plays OOC teams during the day - but that debate was settled on the grounds of LSU night games being better.
Feel free to ask any questions and I will try to get you caught up on this sizzling topic!
- Alabana administration thinks they’re too good for the sun. Many of their fans agree, citing various reasons (sunburn, sweat, inability to afford sunscreen, and something called “stinking sis”). They feel as though the SEC is scheming against them. Nick Saban actually apologized to the fans for the weather. The idea of LSU + SEC + Mother Nature scheming against Alabana has been thrown around.
- Other members of the SEC view this as bombastic, weak, and embarrassing. They reference everyone doing it and advise Alabana fans to quit crying.
- It was noted that LSU rarely ever plays OOC teams during the day - but that debate was settled on the grounds of LSU night games being better.
Feel free to ask any questions and I will try to get you caught up on this sizzling topic!
This post was edited on 9/9/19 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:26 pm to SummerOfGeorge
You keep trying to make this a conference issue when it’s completely an Alabama issue.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:27 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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You keep trying to make this a conference issue when it’s completely an Alabama issue.
I'm gonna be honest - I don't even know what issue we're talking about at this point
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:29 pm to mauser
That’s what the fans want. We discussed this earlier but football in the south in September should be played at night. It’s too hot on the athletes in particular. I’d bet field level is at least 20 degrees hotter than the stands. Games shouldn’t start before 5 or 6 PM.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:30 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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Feel free to ask any questions and I will try to get you caught up on this sizzling topic!
Let the sunshine, let the sunshine in, the sunshine in!
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:31 pm to meansonny
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Every fooking school has to do this, you know?
Actually, no. Bama didn't have to do any of that. In fact, in order to get us to commit in recent years, the neutral site committees often guaranteed us $1 million more than our opponent (with a guaranteed minimum) before they ever even found someone willing to play us.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:31 pm to BrerTiger
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Let the sunshine, let the sunshine in, the sunshine in!
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:36 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Don't worry boys, I'm prepared for Saturday
Posted on 9/9/19 at 11:36 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Auburn's only home and home series in the last 10 years was Clemson (twice)
That is 4 home and home games in 10 years.
Better than Bama?
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Wisconsin is notoriously AWFUL at OOC schedules - their only good OOC schedules in the last decade have been playing Alabama and LSU 2x (all neutral site)
Yet they schedule more home and homes than Bama and still manage 3 neutral sites against the SEC in the past 10 years.
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Oregon has played.......Michigan State and Tennessee? Virginia? Their 2 best OOC games have been Auburn and LSU (neutral site)
So in a decade, they have 6 home and home games and 2 more neutral sites. Better than Bama?
I understand the strains of putting a schedule out years in advance. I mean, your AD might have to purchase software with a calendar that goes out to 2030 to be able to manage that. How does every other team in the country manage? Maybe they do it at noon on Saturday because they have night games in September.
Jesus Mary and Joseph.
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