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re: Enough is enough already. Definitive Chubb vs Fournette info inside

Posted on 5/13/15 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by sicboy
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 3:58 pm to
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Oh, but that doesn't count because LF was running against 11 men in the box each time.


It might sound like a crap excuse, but when the opposing team doesn't fear your passing game at all, makes things pretty tough, especially if your stubborn about running up the gut.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 3:58 pm to
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that doesn't change the fact that chubb dwarfed leo's receiving numbers (in addition to the rushing numbers).


And once again, I never said they didn't so.....I'm really not sure why you keep insinuating that they did.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41866 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 3:59 pm to
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Yeah that seems to be an equalizer, and as mentioned chubb's YPC was almost 2 full yards higher over the season, and FOUR yards higher against common opponents.


Respect of a QB is the only answer.....LSU gets better QB play and holes will open.

It's pretty simple
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 4:01 pm to
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It might sound like a crap excuse, but when the opposing team doesn't fear your passing game at all, makes things pretty tough, especially if your stubborn about running up the gut.


It ignores the fact that UGA threw for only 30 more YPG than LSU did, with roughly the same yards per attempt (7.7 for UGA vs 7.2 for LSU). It's not like we were throwing it around Air Raid style. We threw effectively around the line of scrimmage. Our lack of a deep threat didn't do anything to clear out the box.
This post was edited on 5/13/15 at 4:02 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32814 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 5:51 pm to
How on earth has this discussion gone on so many pages? There is no rational argument for LF at this point in time.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 6:13 pm to
What a random fricking post!

This has been discussed and beaten to death. Can't wait to see your next ground breaking topic
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19047 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 7:20 pm to
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Potential to improve is one thing, but I don't see any reasonable, rational, logical reason why anybody would proclaim that as of right now in summer of 2015 that fournette is the better back. He isn't.


I can agree with that but I hate when people try to compare great player's stats to see who is better. Each of these two RB's are outstanding and each is in his own unique situation. The one who will win this argument is the one who plays the longest in the season and has the highest rankings at the end.

Chubb played some of the year in TG's shadow so he had some detractions from what he could have done.

Fournette simply put had to develop more than even he expected. He did improve sharply as the season advanced and he finished strong. He was asked in Spring Practice this year when he the game slowed down a little bit for him and he said "the Florida game (mid-season)", he was asked when he finally grasped the blocking schemes and he said "the Notre Dame game(bowl game)." This lack of readiness was not for lack of trying - he worked very hard to get better.

As for LF's burden last year he was asked to get more yards rushing than the QB got passing in the second half of the season. He ran into 8 -9 man boxes routinely.

Look for a much bigger year this year from LF because he is the primary guy and the QB play will be better.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 7:24 pm to
One of the dumbest points in the thread is the one about chubb's 32 extra carries over 13 games being a 2 game difference.
Posted by RainChance0
Houston
Member since May 2013
541 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 10:34 pm to
SECW vs. SECE. Big difference.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 10:48 pm to
Fournette came on strong later in the season.

We shall see
Posted by GoldenDawg
Dawg in Exile
Member since Oct 2013
19082 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 11:17 pm to
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SECW vs. SECE. Big difference.

Chubb did better against the SECW than Fournette did. By a lot.
Posted by spacewrangler
In my easy chair with my boots on..
Member since Sep 2009
9745 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 11:28 pm to
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Fournette came on strong later in the season. When LSU played a shitty defense tamu and in a loss to Notre Dane


So did Chubb once he was the starters.

Looking at his last 6 games he ran for

250+UL
120+ GT
110+Chou
140+ Au
170+UK
150+ uf

LF
140+ Notre Dame in a loss
140+ TAMU bad defense is bad
9 Ark LOLoss
70+ Bama ha 4 in a row
110+ Miss.




Chubb is better than LF by a pretty good margin. Never really noticed that LF did anything extra special, he was just a solid sec back. A number of other sec backs could have put up the same numbers for lsu
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