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Elite 11 Matters
Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:58 pm
Ten of the past 11 Heisman-winning quarterbacks were Elite 11 finalists
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Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:01 pm to nebraskafaninwi
Shea Patterson is the GOAT
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:05 pm to nebraskafaninwi
SC QB commit, Brandon McIlwain, is the Elite 11 Semi's MVP, so everyone will be gunning for his top spot in the finals, in Eugene.
That makes since about the Elite 11 Finalists, how many of those guys actually were the Finals of the Elite 11 MVP though?
That makes since about the Elite 11 Finalists, how many of those guys actually were the Finals of the Elite 11 MVP though?
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:05 pm to nebraskafaninwi
Boom!
#6heismans
#6heismans
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:06 pm to rmnldr
I was waiting for someone to do it...
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:07 pm to nebraskafaninwi
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Ten of the past 11 Heisman-winning quarterbacks were Elite 11 finalists
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:09 pm to nebraskafaninwi
Were Cam and Manziel? I could be wrong, but I don't think they were?
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:10 pm to nebraskafaninwi
Are you sure? I'm looking at the wiki page for Elite 11 and, well, Mariota wasn't Elite 11, Manziel wasn't Elite 11, Griffin wasn't Elite 11, Newton wasn't Elite 11....
That's four in the last five years already. Or is there some nuance to the idea of "finalist" that I'm missing?
That's four in the last five years already. Or is there some nuance to the idea of "finalist" that I'm missing?
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:10 pm to TheSHU
Let's go! Jennings pain train all aboard!
Get in there, baw!
Get in there, baw!
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:13 pm to 15sammy34
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Were Cam and Manziel? I could be wrong, but I don't think they were?
You're correct.
No doubt about it though - lots of great QBs are in the Elite 11. I would love to fill AU's QB slot every year with one.
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:14 pm to randomways
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Are you sure? I'm looking at the wiki page for Elite 11 and, well, Mariota wasn't Elite 11, Manziel wasn't Elite 11, Griffin wasn't Elite 11, Newton wasn't Elite 11....
There's 18 finalists and 11 are chose to be called "Elite". The wiki page only shows the 11
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:14 pm to rmnldr
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:15 pm to AubieALUMdvm
OP is full of shite.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:17 pm to NeathOrangeandBlue
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There's 18 finalists and 11 are chose to be called "Elite". The wiki page only shows the 11
Ah, okay. That really kind of diminishes the factoid. It's basically saying that, out of the top 18 high school quarterbacks, there's a good chance one of them will eventually be the Heisman winner in a year when the award goes to a quarterback. Not exactly a stunning stat, especially when being a top quarterback also means you're likely to go to a top school with significant media exposure to help any Heisman campaign along.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:17 pm to NeathOrangeandBlue
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There's 18 finalists and 11 are chose to be called "Elite".
That would be like claiming McD AA Finalists as being the same as McD AA.
No one does this.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:17 pm to nebraskafaninwi
Jameis Winston's Elite 11 finalists class:
Austin Appleby; Purdue
Neal Burcham; SMU
Shane Dillon; Colorado
Bart Houston; Wisconsin
Chad Kelly; Clemson -> Mississippi
Zach Kline; California
Jeff Lindquist; Washington
Tanner Mangum; Brigham Young Elite 11 MVP
Zeke Pike; Auburn -> Louisville
Chad Voytik; Pittsburgh
Jameis Winston; Florida State Elite 11 MVP
Hardly an indicator of success overall. Loads of crap college QBs.
Austin Appleby; Purdue
Neal Burcham; SMU
Shane Dillon; Colorado
Bart Houston; Wisconsin
Chad Kelly; Clemson -> Mississippi
Zach Kline; California
Jeff Lindquist; Washington
Tanner Mangum; Brigham Young Elite 11 MVP
Zeke Pike; Auburn -> Louisville
Chad Voytik; Pittsburgh
Jameis Winston; Florida State Elite 11 MVP
Hardly an indicator of success overall. Loads of crap college QBs.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:19 pm to thunderbird1100
Nobody is saying all of them will have success. Most do not. But the stat is there.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:22 pm to nebraskafaninwi
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Nobody is saying all of them will have success. Most do not. But the stat is there.
It's a useless stat.
It's like saying Jamarcus Russell was a great LSU QB, LSU produces great QBs.
Most of the kids named as elite 11 finalists end up being crap in college than good. Just because 1 or 2 kids out of 11 end up winning something big doesnt mean the elite 11 is an indicator of anything.
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:22 pm to nebraskafaninwi
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Nobody is saying all of them will have success. Most do not. But the stat is there.
So can you track down which QB is the anomaly? I assume it's Manziel, but I haven't verified that.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 10:22 pm to nebraskafaninwi
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But the stat is there.
Except it isn't.
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