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Posted on 11/14/10 at 5:42 pm
Posted by TurtleNO
Jefferson, LA
Member since Sep 2008
171 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 5:42 pm
I was on another site and an Auburn alumni posted a message that was well thought out. Here it is...

So after seeing my son being a regular poster here for a while, and as an avid supporter of my alma mater, Auburn now for 22 years, I feel the need to post some common sense out there.

I think its obvious at this point that Cam Newton did not follow the rules. After details of his personals came out, I am not happy with my school right now, not because he and his actions have disgraced the athletic program, but because his PREVIOUS actions indicated that he would be a poor fit for the school, and is not the type of human being that a true supporter of the University (not just the sports programs) would want to be part of our family.

My school is in the news today for one thing. Just one thing. That our athletic director is standing adamantly behind someone who, no question, gives us a tremendous opportunity to win a national championship in football, but who I feel is not seeing the bigger picture, because his presence at this point at the school is compromising everything the school is trying to accomplish. I've heard plenty of rumors, lots of unnamed sources, and the only thing I will admit is that Cam Newton is a disgrace to my university, but I DONT KNOW to what extent, and where the truth lies (usually somewhere in the middle, as my faith refuses me to believe that all of the allegations could possibly be true, no family can be born that rotten)

We are about to complete a new, 100 million dollar basketball stadium. We have approved a new, state of the art, 15 million dollar football practice and training complex, which will be competitive with any national program. We are about to build a new campus. IN CHINA. We recently completed one of the most advanced electronic systems out there (more advanced than Johns Hopkins) for our beloved Auburn Hospital.

But no one hears about that. All we hear are things about Cam Newton. You're also a fool if you think that Cam Newton is the first offense, or the only current offense.

As a couple of others here have already pointed out, we also have a famed booster named Bobby Lowder. Auburn, in 2001, dismissed a University President, William Muse because he elected override the athletics department and self report certain violations that ended up placing the University on probation in football. He was a true Auburn man, dedicated to what colleges are supposed to do. Educate people. He was the one who also tried to drive Tommy Tubberville away, flying his own private jet to meet Bobby Petrino. He also installed, on our board, a lackey (Richardson) as university president, and ensured the appointment of several close friends of his to the Board. Over the last few months, that same board voted to raise tuition by 13% this year, the largest single raise in the history of the University. What was interesting about it, is that none of that money was appropriated. Nobody knows where its going. They told us that the raise in tuition was "to encourage people to graduate in 4 years".

I, along with many like minded supporters of any school, love my sports teams. But I love my University more. My success today, I credit to the experiences I had at Auburn. And I am afraid, for my school, that the athletics has trumped the fact that Auburn is, at its roots, an educational institution that has a great tradition and athletics program, not the other way around. My school now, I fear, likely faces possibly a death penalty, all for the sake of a national championship.

I for one, as a supporter both in spirit and financially to my home for life, do not believe any gain is worth the loss of integrity of the University, and I cannot support the actions of an athletics department that is so willing to sacrifice the INTEGRITY of the entire school for a national championship in any sport.
Posted by StarkvilleTigerFan
Muncie, IN
Member since Jan 2005
3939 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 5:44 pm to
Interesting post
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
7958 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 5:46 pm to
Maybe there is hope for Auburn.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79140 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 5:46 pm to
that post rivals only will smith's 90's haircut in terms of levelheadedness.
Posted by HideChaKidz
Member since Oct 2010
7372 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 5:47 pm to
quote:

As a couple of others here have already pointed out, we also have a famed booster named Bobby Lowder. Auburn, in 2001, dismissed a University President, William Muse because he elected override the athletics department and self report certain violations that ended up placing the University on probation in football. He was a true Auburn man, dedicated to what colleges are supposed to do. Educate people. He was the one who also tried to drive Tommy Tubberville away, flying his own private jet to meet Bobby Petrino. He also installed, on our board, a lackey (Richardson) as university president, and ensured the appointment of several close friends of his to the Board. Over the last few months, that same board voted to raise tuition by 13% this year, the largest single raise in the history of the University. What was interesting about it, is that none of that money was appropriated. Nobody knows where its going. They told us that the raise in tuition was "to encourage people to graduate in 4 years".


Good post, but anyone else confused a bit by the point of this passage? So was the guy, that was a true auburn man, good or bad for the university? Sounds conflicted..
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27834 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 5:47 pm to
This isn't going to sit well with the family.
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
11375 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 5:50 pm to
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
16147 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 5:52 pm to
Most Auburn fans would like to lay into that guy im sure.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
14018 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 5:53 pm to
Wow, great read
Posted by cameronml
Member since Oct 2007
1909 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 5:53 pm to
If the football team gets the death penalty, maybe it will be a way for the University to get its' priorities straight and be an educational institute first, as this poster would like.
This post was edited on 11/14/10 at 5:54 pm
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
6906 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

that post rivals only will smith's 90's haircut in terms of levelheadedness.


Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53842 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 5:56 pm to
Wait until he finds out what all of those board members are using his university for, he will really be proud then. They raised the tuition yet the money isn't accounted for. Who is in charge of this Atheletic fund that is a private organization that doesn't have to say who is giving them money.

Does this atheletic fund pay for any scholarship, if so who is recieving these scholarships?

Are very wealthy peoples children going to college at Auburn for free while others are having their tuition go up?

Does this atheletic fund have a leader? Is that leader a powerful person in our society that possibly played football for Auburn at one time.

I wonder if the lettermans club is in anyway caught up in all of this? does the lettermans club offer any scholarships, if so I wonder who recieves these scholly's?

I guess you could go on and on about the possibilities that exist here. Investigating this could take forever, or perhaps it took about 4 years, who knows!!
This post was edited on 11/14/10 at 5:58 pm
Posted by jtran1988
Corndog U
Member since Oct 2008
5321 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 5:57 pm to
Good shite. Newton isn't part of the Auburn family.. he is only there.. for ONE semester. The university is frowned upon because of Newton's actions. He'll be laughing his way towards millions (if and when he goes pro) while Auburn will be getting the hammer.

One man's actions, one semester isn't worth it.... too bad.
Posted by 87BAMAGRAD
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
949 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 5:58 pm to
quote:

He was the one who also tried to drive Tommy Tubberville away, flying his own private jet to meet Bobby Petrino. He also installed, on our board, a lackey (Richardson) as university president, and ensured the appointment of several close friends of his to the Board.


He means Lowder here.
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 6:00 pm to
quote:

Good post, but anyone else confused a bit by the point of this passage? So was the guy, that was a true auburn man, good or bad for the university? Sounds conflicted..


It is worded a bit odd, but I think he was saying the University President, William Muse, was a true Auburn man, not Lowder.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53842 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

It is worded a bit odd, but I think he was saying the University President, William Muse, was a true Auburn man, not Lowder.


That is what he was saying.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44383 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

Good post, but anyone else confused a bit by the point of this passage? So was the guy, that was a true auburn man, good or bad for the university? Sounds conflicted..



The true Auburn man was William Muse who reported violations the athletic department was going to cover up. The piece of shite is Lowder.
Posted by OliverCloseoff
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
838 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 6:04 pm to
where did all the auburn frickers go with their smartass remarks?
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32254 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 6:06 pm to
quote:

If the football team gets the death penalty
People keep mentioning the "death penalty" but is Auburn under probation in another program of which I am not aware? Another probation within a 5 year window of another I believe is the only way a "death penalty" can be used.
BTW - the NCAA will never, ever use the death penalty again in football. Some of the other sports maybe but not football.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 11/14/10 at 6:08 pm to
Interesting that not one single Aubie has commented on this yet.
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