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re: Early reports have Sumlin getting $5M per year.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:35 am to TheCaterpillar
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:35 am to TheCaterpillar
The endless bullshite coming from the Rant about how A&M is fricked is old and boring. I'm listing all the predictions the rant has had about my program over the past 12 months, and literally ALL of them have been wrong. You seem to be dead set on continuing that tradition.
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Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:38 am to Gradual_Stroke
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The endless bullshite coming from the Rant about how A&M is fricked is old and boring.
Hypocrite.....you boys have been shouting #tDecline from the mountain every since the summer.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:38 am to Gradual_Stroke
I haven't made any predictions of A&M in the past except they would lose to LSU.
I made the comment they will lose a lot of games next year and that goes along with an Aggie prediction in this thread I just read saying 8-4 next year.
I will make a prediction. I say 7-5 next year, but much improved in 2015.
Are you making any changes on defense? Who is filling the massive holes on offense?
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If you can't have adult conversations just say so and I'll back out.
I made the comment they will lose a lot of games next year and that goes along with an Aggie prediction in this thread I just read saying 8-4 next year.
I will make a prediction. I say 7-5 next year, but much improved in 2015.
Are you making any changes on defense? Who is filling the massive holes on offense?
ETA:
If you can't have adult conversations just say so and I'll back out.
This post was edited on 12/3/13 at 8:40 am
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:45 am to TheCaterpillar
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I'm not saying they won't compete, but I just feel A&M will have major issues going forward without those guys carrying a shitastic defense on their backs.
I can't tell if people are actually serious when they say things like this. Do y'all really not pay attention to recruiting?
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:47 am to TeLeFaWx
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Do y'all really not pay attention to recruiting?
Other than LSU...hell no.
ETA I think it is stupid for LSU fans to hang on the whims of high school kids that are being recruited by and are interested in LSU....it would be beyond insanity to do the same for a team your not even a fan of.
This post was edited on 12/3/13 at 8:49 am
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:48 am to TeLeFaWx
Your problem wasn't talent hoss.
Its coaching on defense. Sumlin has never had a good defense. Without one, it will be very hard to take the next step in this conference.
I'm asking if you have made changes on the defensive side of the ball in terms of coaching.
Also, I do pay attention to recruiting and Tony Brown and Ed Paris really could help y'all next year.
Its coaching on defense. Sumlin has never had a good defense. Without one, it will be very hard to take the next step in this conference.
I'm asking if you have made changes on the defensive side of the ball in terms of coaching.
Also, I do pay attention to recruiting and Tony Brown and Ed Paris really could help y'all next year.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:49 am to TheCaterpillar
I am trying to ask legit questions and have not had 1 legit answer. Come on Aggies, stop being so bitter and talk like an adult.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:49 am to TheCaterpillar
I haven't read all 19 pages, so maybe this has already been posted, but this article makes it sound like Sumlin wanted the job bad, but USC was not in love with him.
This jives with what I've been hearing for over a month now.
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For the two months leading up to this past week, Sumlin’s representatives were in near constant contact with USC, continually letting Haden’s people know that he wanted the job. He felt quarterback Johnny Manziel was set to jump to the NFL and he was not looking forward to a rebuild next season. He wanted a new challenge and thought the path to a national championship would be easier at USC.
As the season progressed and the people at USC started digging into Sumlin’s background, his coaching philosophy, etc., some began to sour on him as a top option. That’s not to say he wasn’t still a target, but he had fallen down a few notches in some eyes. His team’s 8-4 record and scoring defense (84th in the nation at 30.9 points per game) also worked against him. Still, they were intrigued because he was pushing so hard for the job.
Then in the middle of last week Sumlin’s representatives contacted USC, canceled their December 1 meeting and asked that his name be taken off the list of candidates. He had decided to remain at Texas A&M and was set to sign an extension. Most people at USC expected that would be the eventual outcome all along, especially as the season went on and some of the higher-ups began to sour on him.
This jives with what I've been hearing for over a month now.
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Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:49 am to TheCaterpillar
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I do pay attention to recruiting and Tony Brown and Ed Paris really could help y'all next year.
Tough break for aTm on that one. Speedy could help their loss of offensive production as well....tough break on that one too.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:49 am to Big12fan
Can we please ban this troll? Good lord his A&M obsession is unbearable.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:52 am to Big12fan
I wouldn't want him at LSU unless he came with a top notch DC and gave him full reign of the defense.
His high powered offense also leads to turnovers and poor TOP sometimes and that can kill a defense's endurance.
His offense is fun as hell to watch though. I keep asking the Aggies the same questions:
1. Who fills in for JM and Jake?
2. What changes will be made in terms of defensive coaching?
I'll add a 3rd
3. Who of note is returning on both sides of the ball?
His high powered offense also leads to turnovers and poor TOP sometimes and that can kill a defense's endurance.
His offense is fun as hell to watch though. I keep asking the Aggies the same questions:
1. Who fills in for JM and Jake?
2. What changes will be made in terms of defensive coaching?
I'll add a 3rd
3. Who of note is returning on both sides of the ball?
This post was edited on 12/3/13 at 8:53 am
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:54 am to Gradual_Stroke
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Can we please ban this troll? Good lord his A&M obsession is unbearable.
Afraid of the truth?
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:14 am to TheCaterpillar
All you really need to understand about the Sumlin contract are these few things;
The Ags have been starved for winning football for a decade or more. He brought that in year one.
Great coaches recruit great players and Sumlin is killing it on the recruiting trail, along with a couple of key assistant coaches.
The Texas Aggies have the money. (see 1/2 Billion stadium improvements, 3/4 Billion in former student donations in 2012, PUF (look that one up), etc. Don't worry about the Ags wasting their money foolishly on an "average" coach.
Tip of the hat to Bama, The Tigers, The Tigers and The Tigers this year. Just don't get too use to kicking A&M's underclassmen defense around for long.
The Ags have been starved for winning football for a decade or more. He brought that in year one.
Great coaches recruit great players and Sumlin is killing it on the recruiting trail, along with a couple of key assistant coaches.
The Texas Aggies have the money. (see 1/2 Billion stadium improvements, 3/4 Billion in former student donations in 2012, PUF (look that one up), etc. Don't worry about the Ags wasting their money foolishly on an "average" coach.
Tip of the hat to Bama, The Tigers, The Tigers and The Tigers this year. Just don't get too use to kicking A&M's underclassmen defense around for long.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:16 am to TheCaterpillar
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Your problem wasn't talent hoss.
Absolutely it was.
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Its coaching on defense.
No it wasn't.
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Sumlin has never had a good defense.
Has any Conference USA team ever had a good defense?
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Without one, it will be very hard to take the next step in this conference.
Which is why I asked about recruiting.
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I'm asking if you have made changes on the defensive side of the ball in terms of coaching.
Why we would address that before we had the talent? No part of what you're saying makes any sense.
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Also, I do pay attention to recruiting and Tony Brown and Ed Paris really could help y'all next year.
Or the best defensive end recruit in the nation? We currently have two 5 stars and twelve 4 stars... 9/14 are defensive recruits this year... do you know how many current defensive starters are 4 or 5 stars? A&M won't have a defensive player DRAFTED the next two years. You wouldn't say talent isn't the problem, if you had absolutely any idea what you're talking about.
You really think a roster full of mostly Big 12 commits recruited by Mike Sherman is talented enough for the grind of the SEC? Swamp kittens are adorable.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:19 am to TheCaterpillar
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I wouldn't want him at LSU unless he came with a top notch DC and gave him full reign of the defense.
Cool.
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His high powered offense also leads to turnovers and poor TOP sometimes and that can kill a defense's endurance.
Last years defense didn't give up more than 30 points once in SEC play.
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1. Who fills in for JM and Jake?
Either the number one QB recruit in the country, or the best QB recruit in the state of Texas the year before.
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2. What changes will be made in terms of defensive coaching?
None.
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3. Who of note is returning on both sides of the ball?
Our best returning defensive players were both true freshmen this year.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:32 am to Big12fan
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I haven't read all 19 pages
You should have. You would have saved yourself the embarrassment of posting an "article" from a website called "rumors and rants" that has already been comically exposed as a ridiculous piece of obviously false propaganda from scorned USC boosters.
This post was edited on 12/3/13 at 9:34 am
Posted on 12/3/13 at 10:00 am to TheCaterpillar
quote:Wow, Sumlin made out like a bandit. A&M got seriously abused on this deal.
A&M is fricked because USC is gonna steal our coach.
A&M is fricked because USC didn't steal our coach.
I think different people have been saying these things.
Also, I think A&M is fricked because they're losing Johnny and Jake while they currently have the worst defense imaginable. That's why I'm surprised Sumlin took this. He is as popular as he'll ever be and big boys in with big media behind them like USC and Texas aren't always looking for coaches.
A&M loses a lot of games next year.
Aggies, you bring up keeping him from jumping to USC- a lot of that was us teasing to play on your insecurity. It's funny when your fans jump on that bait, but to see your AD and school admin fall for that crap too... that's really kind of sad. Somebody else brought up A&M having "the fat wallet"; well, you don't HAVE to spend money, just because you can.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 10:12 am to Big12fan
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I haven't read all 19 pages, so maybe this has already been posted, but this article makes it sound like Sumlin wanted the job bad, but USC was not in love with him.
Been addressed Ad Nauseam. They deny their "info" is just aggy bs from their a&m only board. They also believe in many conspiracy theories fwiw. USC has said nothing about Sumlin being offered or even being the prime candidate, but somehow A&M people know EXACTLY what happened, and USC side has no idea even though they were the ones holding the GD coaching search.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 10:15 am to tiggerthetooth
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Been addressed Ad Nauseam. They deny their "info" is just aggy bs from their a&m only board.
National news services reported that Sumlin was USC's number one target. Do you think we made that up?
Posted on 12/3/13 at 10:31 am to tiggerthetooth
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They deny their "info" is just aggy bs from their a&m only board.
Because it an empirical fact that multiple reputable journalists reported that Sumlin was USC's first choice, some reported that they offered him the job, and Jim Rome even said that they wanted him, but never really had a chance. Why do you think that everybody on the rant was posting about how A&M was screwed because Sumlin was gone? The news was all over the place. Where have been?
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