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re: "Dre Kirkpatrick is a bust"

Posted on 5/9/14 at 9:48 am to
Posted by Patton
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 9:48 am to
I don't know. I think you might be selling his tackling ability a little short. Granted it's been three years since I've seen him play at UA but I remember him being able to hit hard when he did make good contact. He wasn't that great of a corner but like Juice said I'd take him back this year playing at his 2011 level.
Posted by Grievous Angel
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 9:48 am to
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I'll take dre over Vinnie any and every time.


By almost every conceivable measure. Just pointing out that Vinnie better represents the Bama/Saban defensive identity and attitude IMO.

Dre is more Deon (play style and attitude, not talent). Which isn't a bad thing. But it's not "built by bama."
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 9:51 am to
I agree, I think we need one of those "Deon" guys as you put it on every team though. He was a big part of the confidence that 2012 defense played with.

ETA: I'm not willing to label him a bust until I see what happens next year.
This post was edited on 5/9/14 at 9:55 am
Posted by Gray Tiger
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 9:55 am to
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chattabama


Who is the guy in the foreground dancing instead of helping on the tackle?
Posted by Grievous Angel
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 9:56 am to
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I agree, I think we need one of those "Deon" guys as you put it on every team though. He was a big part of the confidence that 2012 defense played with.


I think you mean 2011. He was drafted in 2012.

And I would argue that defense's identity came from Upshaw, Hightower, and Barron. Those were the real bad motherf&*%ers.

Edit: if Eddie Jackson can get his crap together, I think he could become the prototype of what a "perfect" Bama DB should look like.

This post was edited on 5/9/14 at 10:00 am
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 10:01 am to
ya, 2011 of course.

I was talking about the confidence, that D stepped on the field and knew that nobody was going to get the best of them. Dre was a big part of that. The guys you mentioned, brought out the strength up front. But when Dre got burned on that first play against UF (if my memory is correct) and then came right back out there and we shut them down. I like seeing that in a corner.
Posted by Grievous Angel
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 10:07 am to
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that D stepped on the field and knew that nobody was going to get the best of them. Dre was a big part of that


Maybe. He didn't strike me as a leader, tho, but I wasn't in the locker room or on the sideline.

He wasn't a particularly good tackler, I don't know what his INT totals were (don't remember many).

I'm comparing him to guys like George Teague and Antonio Langham.

Hell even guys who weren't "up to spec/eye test" like Javy Arenas. Go through your memory and tell me you don't remember more Javy highlights--and it'm not talking about punt/kickoff returns.

He started for a reason. He didn't suck. But I think he gets elevated to an undeserved level--most of that coming from his 5 star pedigree and he really, really "looked the part." In a way that Julio Jones "looked the part." But I remember so many more "bad motherfricker" moments from Julio.

Again, different positions. And just IMO.
This post was edited on 5/9/14 at 10:09 am
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 10:09 am to
Dey ain't got enuf swagga
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 10:10 am to
Oh I don't think he is a Julio type freak talent.
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 10:11 am to
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He'll be great eventually, IMO.

Posted by Grievous Angel
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 10:15 am to
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Oh I don't think he is a Julio type freak talent.


It's not just that. Julio didn't go out of bounds voluntarily. If Dre played the position, I could see him doing it.

I just cracked it . . Dre and DJ Hall . . separated at birth?
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 10:37 am to
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Who is the guy in the foreground dancing instead of helping on the tackle?


Same guy in these pictures:







Didn't realize you wanted to see more pictures
Posted by LC412000
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 10:51 am to
Have those pictures hanging over your bed, huh? laughing here
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 10:57 am to
I don't. You should try Google image search. There are a lot more pictures of that game.

Here's my favorite:



Glad I could help.
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 11:01 am to
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This post was edited on 5/9/14 at 11:05 am
Posted by LC412000
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 11:03 am to
Unlike you I was at that game and that particular picture is photo shopped as it was not 21-0 with 11:57 left in the 4th quarter. I was also at the 9-6 game and also at every LSU-Alabama game for the past 30 years. Let me know when you attend your first Alabama game that is not a spring game. It is ok already heard all the excuses, tickets too high, live out of Alabama, just got married, mom does not let me go to the games, etc
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 11:15 am to
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Let me know when you attend your first Alabama game that is not a spring game. It is ok already heard all the excuses, tickets too high, live out of Alabama, just got married, mom does not let me go to the games, etc


So today you've decided to bring out the sleeping with your lady jokes, jokes about homosexuality, and stereotypes about sidewalk fans (which doesn't apply to me btw)

You're bringing the heat today, aren't you?


Posted by Hogwall Jackson
Denver
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 11:18 am to
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Places that think that Dre is a bust:



The NFL panel at the draft last night.
Posted by LC412000
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 11:19 am to
Nah just bored on the flight from LAX. I impress you obviously as you have researched for my posts today....lol.
Posted by LC412000
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 11:22 am to
For the record, I don't consider Dre a bust. The young man has been in the NFL for 2-3 years. How can anyone who ever makes it to a NFL team be considered a bust?
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