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Don't blame Ole Miss for circling the wagons...blame the NCAA

Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:51 am
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:51 am
Every time a major program has tried to work with the NCAA and come clean during an investigation, they've gotten hammered. Time and again the NCAA has thanked the compliance department, praised their efforts...and then crushed the program. The NCAA is the most ineffective and arbitrary enforcement organization ever known. So when a school like Ole Miss sees what has happened to other programs like Alabama and USC, where rules WERE broken but the compliance office tried to be transparent, you can't blame Ole Miss for learning the clear lesson: when the NCAA comes investigating, you let them do their work and don't give them any help.

Programs that have gotten nailed in the past have frequently had good arguments for why the penalties and/or the process wasn't fair. But let's face it - nobody is interested when the guilty is overpunished. Most people just consider it whining if a rule breaker doesn't get due process or penalties appropriate to the violations. So you just have to suck it up and take whatever the NCAA wants to hand out.

In this atmosphere, you may as well just brace yourself and don't give them any help, because that approach doesn't make it any better.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99065 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:55 am to
True story. Louisville's President Ramsey tried to force a heavy hand on self-imposed penalties with a post-season ban in the middle of a season and other reductions and it got him this in the middle of downtown Louisville:



When it boils down to it, the people knows what's up.
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
6954 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 12:06 pm to
Listen to the OP. He is an Alabama fan. They know how to avoid NCAA punishment over there.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

Listen to the OP. He is an Alabama fan. They know how to avoid NCAA punishment over there.


Listening to me would be the first wise thing you've ever done on the rant.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6925 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

Listen to the OP. He is an Alabama fan. They know how to avoid NCAA punishment over there.


Quite ironic coming from a fan of the Fambly

Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5152 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 3:59 pm to
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Listen to the OP. He is an Alabama fan. They know how to avoid NCAA punishment over there.




Alabama cooperated during the Means investigation and got slammed. They cooperated during the textbook thing and got slammed. When has Bama averted sanctions for any serious rules infractions that have any kind of hard evidence substantiating them?
This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 4:00 pm
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

Alabama cooperated during the Means investigation and got slammed. They cooperated during the textbook thing and got slammed. When has Bama averted sanctions for any serious


you have selective memory. Bama stonewalled the hell out of its investigation and pissed the hell out of the NCAA.

you are not entitled to your own "facts"
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64738 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

Alabama cooperated during the Means investigation and got slammed.

when a high school coach is paid a quarter of a million dollars for a kid's signature, being cooperative isn't going to get you a slap on the wrist.
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They cooperated during the textbook thing and got slammed

outside of vacating wins (the most pointless penalty), what else did the football team really suffer? They were on probation, but I wouldn't say they got hammered. Just because you're transparent doesn't mean you'll also avoid any penalty for wrongdoing. It does, generally, lessen the load, unless it's over the top like Albert Means
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52148 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 4:15 pm to
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51827 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 5:18 pm to
Or you could just stop cheating at football like Auburn has for the last twenty years.


Posted by FuddSandersJr
Member since Jul 2013
1648 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 5:23 pm to
Bama wanted to come clean and work with the NCAA so badly that they even asked Fulmer to come testify.
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