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re: Does Missouri have the staying power?
Posted on 2/11/15 at 3:26 pm to CedarVol
Posted on 2/11/15 at 3:26 pm to CedarVol
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Do you guys think that Pinkel is good enough as a coach to overcome the talent deficit that Missouri will have compared to the other teams listed or do you think Mizzou will start recruiting to the same level?
When Mizzou was @ the hottest team in the country in Knoxville this last fall, the only talent deficit I saw was on the side of UT. Not sure what you were watching.
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Posted on 2/11/15 at 4:03 pm to CedarVol
Posted on 2/11/15 at 4:06 pm to notsince98
Do you think Missouri recruits more superior athletes than Tennessee? Maybe Pinkel is just that good at recognizing the underrated players. It is a fact that Tennessee recruits better than Mizzou as far as rankings go. Sometimes rankings don't mean a lot sometimes they do. I think most folks would rather have higher rated players but I suppose Pinkel has found his niche.
I'm just trying to have a reasonable exchange with you guys. Yes you guys have whipped our butts for 3 years, I'm not denying that. I get it. Congrats.
I have no ill will toward Missouri. All teams have passionate fans that can get a little over excited especially on message boards.
I'm just trying to have a reasonable exchange with you guys. Yes you guys have whipped our butts for 3 years, I'm not denying that. I get it. Congrats.
I have no ill will toward Missouri. All teams have passionate fans that can get a little over excited especially on message boards.
Posted on 2/11/15 at 4:09 pm to nlatigerfan
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Don't know. Guess they could always use this
staying power
I Laughed
Posted on 2/11/15 at 4:14 pm to Sarcastro
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This is how Mizzou and the East will go for the foreseeable future: Off season - Mizzou is not that good. Look at all the talent they lost. They can't compete with SEC powerhouses. All the preseason top player lists come out and where are the Mizzou players? I don't see any. They can't compete with SEC talent. Each week of conference play - Mizzou can't beat *insert SEC team, because said SEC team is on such a hot streak right now. They're one of the nth hottest teams in the country. Actual game is played. Mizzou dominates and wins and SEC team that lost is now revealed as a big ol steaming pile of shite. Also, a Mizzou player wins SEC DPOY every season. Half the time, he wins it despite being openly gay, which everyone knows makes you a worse football player. Mizzou wins the East. Next off season: Sure Mizzou won the East, but it WAS DOWN. Mizzou got lucky, and now they're losing all they're good players. They won't have *insert Mizzou player that nobody paid attention to during the off season but is now regarding as one of the top players at his position. Did you see *insert other SEC East school's signing class. They're going to stop sucking now and dominate the East for years to come! Rinse and repeat for a good five to ten years.
^This should have ended this thread. No truer words have ever been typed on this board.
Posted on 2/11/15 at 4:32 pm to CedarVol
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Do you think Missouri recruits more superior athletes than Tennessee? Maybe Pinkel is just that good at recognizing the underrated players. It is a fact that Tennessee recruits better than Mizzou as far as rankings go. Sometimes rankings don't mean a lot sometimes they do. I think most folks would rather have higher rated players but I suppose Pinkel has found his niche. I'm just trying to have a reasonable exchange with you guys. Yes you guys have whipped our butts for 3 years, I'm not denying that. I get it. Congrats. I have no ill will toward Missouri. All teams have passionate fans that can get a little over excited especially on message boards.
Here is the thing. Recruiting rankings have kind of melted the minds of CFB fans everywhere. They take them as gospel, and while they certainly aren't meaningless, they aren't flawless either.
I think a more accurate review of "talent" would be the NFL players on a team. There was a common theme here that Auburn out talented us in 2013 and the difference between NFL talent on the two rosters was neglible. We had NFL players all over the field that year. We were REALLY good.
As for the future. Who knows? I loved our class this year. We had a few blue chippers, a mass of developmental athletes that Pinkel excels with, and a few truly under the radar stud athletes that is really GPs bread and butter (remember Franklin Agbasimere, Johnathan Johnson and Justin Smith) UT obviously has every right to be very excited about their class as well. Jones is a great recruiter. No argument can be made otherwise. Pinkel is a great identifier and developer.
13 I think we definitely had more talent. 14 we had slightly more. 12? Who knows, we were ravaged by injury and yall still had Dooley
Going forward, we'll just have to see. Can Jones translate recruiting rankings to on the field success. Can GP keep making the recruiting rankings look silly?
Just to add this, I think UT will have a very good team next year and Ive consistently said here that I believe yall will be our main competition for the East.
Posted on 2/11/15 at 4:40 pm to CedarVol
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Who thinks Missouri will continue to be on top of the SECE. They really did luck into the SECE at the perfect time.
You're correct by saying we got into the right side of the conference at the right time. I like Mizzou being over looked every year only to wind up into the SEC CCG two out of three years we've been here.
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There recruiting is not and will not be on par with the bigger name schools. Just not gonna happen.
Correct again. It's a different kind of recruiting Pinkel does. It's not the plug and play type recruiting the SEC is known for and does. Not saying one is better than the other. Plug and play seems to have the advantage for sure, but recruiting and developing players keeps those teams under the radar sometimes. One day we'll get lucky.
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Pinkel is obviously a great coach. To do what he has done with the overall talent he has to work with is really impressive but I think they will come back to reality very soon. At some point superior athletes will win out.
Totally agree. I have to admit, I wondered if he had landed in a situation that was over his head that first year Mizzou was in the SEC. But he has adapted well. He needs to take the next step. Maybe with a new AD coming in, that will help get Mizzou to the next level.
Posted on 2/11/15 at 5:56 pm to Sarcastro
Good replies. Thanks 
Posted on 2/11/15 at 7:58 pm to Chase Daniel
um...congrats on the bball success? i dont care how many we won by, we won. see you in the NCAAT. or not lol. Hell you wont make the CBI...but you beat Ark last year!!! burn!
you have 20 baseball conf titles? congrats. in this conference you have won like 2 weekend series in as many years
you have 20 baseball conf titles? congrats. in this conference you have won like 2 weekend series in as many years
Posted on 2/11/15 at 8:01 pm to CedarVol
Miz Ztacked; SECe fricked.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:53 am to wmr
Mizzou has the most young talent they have ever had during the Pinkel era. Mizzou is staying at the top.
I love the continued talk that the Big 12 North was down when Mizzou was winning....so when Nebraska was winning it was just because it was better. Hmm....same with SEC East. Mizzou is winning so its down. 2 Top 10 teams in 2013 and another top 25 team in SEC East.
I love the continued talk that the Big 12 North was down when Mizzou was winning....so when Nebraska was winning it was just because it was better. Hmm....same with SEC East. Mizzou is winning so its down. 2 Top 10 teams in 2013 and another top 25 team in SEC East.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:21 am to mutigerz
If Mizzou has the staying power this thread does they will be just fine. 
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:32 am to Ridgewalker
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If Mizzou has the staying power this thread does they will be just fine
As long as there is Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra we'll have plenty of staying power, next question!
Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:24 pm to CedarVol
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Do you think Missouri recruits more superior athletes than Tennessee?
We sign guys that fit our needs and our system, with no regard to what others think....perfect current example is Charles Harris. Past example is Aldon Smith.
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Maybe Pinkel is just that good at recognizing the underrated players.
I wouldn't give Pinkel all the credit; his assistants find most of them
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It is a fact that Tennessee recruits better than Mizzou as far as rankings go
True but we both know the services only rank the obvious
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I think most folks would rather have higher rated players but I suppose Pinkel has found his niche.
You're correct; Pinkel and staff will go to 2 horse towns in Bum Frick, TN (pun intended) to see a guy that a friend of a friend of a 3rd cousin told him he could play.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 4:19 pm to Jagd Tiger
Do you realize how stupid the shite you say is?
Can't coach, can't recruit. How in the frick are we in the top 10 NATIONALLY in wins since 07? How?
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As an X's and O's coach, no, Pinkel is really marginal at best, and he's too old a dog to learn that many new tricks. He won't outcoach that deficiency, and it still seems unlikely the recruiting will ever be good enough to overcome that gap as well.
Can't coach, can't recruit. How in the frick are we in the top 10 NATIONALLY in wins since 07? How?
Posted on 2/13/15 at 11:43 am to JesusQuintana
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Do you realize how stupid the shite you say is?
queeftana I realize you're too stupid to have a clue, and I realize you can't help but continue opening your ignorant face and proving it daily. Grats on being the dumbest pile of shite in the entire fanbase, you've earned it!
Posted on 2/13/15 at 11:53 am to Wtodd
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We sign guys that fit our needs and our system, with no regard to what others think.
we would sign mostly 4-5 star guys if we could get them,, or are you suggesting that when we offer them it's "for show only"?
Does Pinkel not mean it when he offers all those 4-5 star kids that we don't get? You guys need to stop making yourselves look like idiots with this notion we have some "system" nobody else has, you're gonna follow the moron queentana down the rosey path of stupidity and wind up on your azz with thorns in it.
Posted on 2/13/15 at 12:36 pm to Jagd Tiger
I think pinkel is really good at coaching and evaluating talent.
Posted on 2/13/15 at 1:03 pm to CarolinaCock
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I think pinkel is really good at coaching and evaluating talent.
so do you agree that when he offers all those 4-5 star kids 'he doesn't really mean it' then?
try to follow along.
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