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re: Does Chizik Still Have A Future As A DC?
Posted on 4/7/14 at 6:09 pm to LSUFOREVERAMEN
Posted on 4/7/14 at 6:09 pm to LSUFOREVERAMEN
Well, it wasn't his offense that cost him his job. So there's that.
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Posted on 4/7/14 at 6:15 pm to nc14
People give the defense a lot of the credit for Auburn's downturn after 2010, but their offense started sputtering in 2011 as well.
This post was edited on 4/7/14 at 6:16 pm
Posted on 4/7/14 at 7:11 pm to LSUFOREVERAMEN
DC at Troy for a couple years then takes over as HC once Blakeney retires.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 7:17 pm to LSUFOREVERAMEN
Was Chiz really ever a defensive whiz? I always thought he was overrated. His only year of allowing less than 200 points was in 2004 at alburn. (147)
By contrast, Kirby Smart is currently on a 5 year streak of allowing less than 200 with a low of 106 in 2011.
By contrast, Kirby Smart is currently on a 5 year streak of allowing less than 200 with a low of 106 in 2011.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 7:18 pm to kudzoo
Is that Kirby or is it Saban? Maybe the same as Chizik and Tubs.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 7:33 pm to kudzoo
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Was Chiz really ever a defensive whiz?
He consistently had top 10-15 D's when he was DC at UCF. He had great D's at Auburn, but like I said earlier, I think Coach Tub was the reason for that. I think college O's have passed that Tampa style of D bye. I hope Coach Chiz gets another shot. I just am not sure what competent program would hire him as anything but a position coach, at the moment.
This post was edited on 4/7/14 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 4/7/14 at 7:38 pm to MrAUTigers
It's Saban's defense when they win, but it's Smart's defense when they lose.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 7:39 pm to kudzoo
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Was Chiz really ever a defensive whiz? I always thought he was overrated. His only year of allowing less than 200 points was in 2004 at alburn. (147)
By contrast, Kirby Smart is currently on a 5 year streak of allowing less than 200 with a low of 106 in 2011.
Kirby has had more talent to work with than any program in the last 25 years. My nod goes to Chiz.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 7:56 pm to MC5601
Wait a minute, if you're going to make excuses for Chiz's D's because of the demands of being a HC, you can't just turn around and give the credit for Bama's great D's to CNS instead of Kirby Smart.
Can't have it both ways.
Can't have it both ways.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 7:59 pm to kudzoo
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His only year of allowing less than 200 points was in 2004 at alburn. (147)
When did 200 points allowed become a means of measuring defensive success?
Posted on 4/7/14 at 8:01 pm to MrAUTigers
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I think college O's have passed that Tampa style of D bye.
Not just college. Monty Kiffen is the mastermind of the Tampa 2. His defense at Dallas last year was the worst NFL defense I've ever seen.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 8:11 pm to kudzoo
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Was Chiz really ever a defensive whiz? I always thought he was overrated. His only year of allowing less than 200 points was in 2004 at alburn. (147)
The 2004 schedule was a joke, too.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 8:14 pm to CaptainBrannigan
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When did 200 points allowed become a means of measuring defensive success?
That's only 2 TDs a game average if you end up playing 14. Not bad. Especially with the rules favoring offense these days.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 8:18 pm to meansonny
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The 2004 schedule was a joke, too.
You can't be serious. Auburn played more teams that were rated in the top 10, when the game was played, than USCw and Okl. played top 25 teams combined.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 8:22 pm to TheSandman
quote:Pretty much this. The version Chiz runs is pretty outdated for these new college offenses. He would have to adapt his scheme to better fit the current offenses.
The Tampa-2 is archaic in modern college football.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 8:22 pm to TU Rob
You gotta be pretty dense if you don't realize that points allowed is a huge defensive stat.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 8:39 pm to MrAUTigers
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You can't be serious. Auburn played more teams that were rated in the top 10, when the game was played, than USCw and Okl. played top 25 teams combined.
During the regular season? Which teams were those?
Please share with me. You might want to include those teams final record as well.
I'll go ahead and remind you that your OOC schedule was UL-Monroe, Citadel, and La-Tech.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 8:44 pm to meansonny
Ironically, if Bama had been halfway decent (7-9 wins) in 2004, it might have given Auburn a bump in the final BCS poll. Enough to put them over Oklahoma.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 8:45 pm to TU Rob
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That's only 2 TDs a game average if you end up playing 14.
Was an 11 game schedule back then.
Posted on 4/7/14 at 8:45 pm to meansonny
You were the one making that idiotic statement. You do the leg work. Try google.
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