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Do you want two divisions or groups or perm opponents...
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:02 am
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:02 am
I think the only fair way to split the teams is two eight team divisions and then you rotate 2 teams from the other division. Nine conference games, no permanent opponents. The MS/AL state line would be the divider...
If they would decide to go back to pods, you'd have to ensure that in state schools are in the same pods, correct? So the Texas, Alabama, Tennessee and Mississippi schools would all be together, setting the base for the pods and then you add them in geographically.
It would be the same geographical ones we've seen listed:
AM, Mizzou, Texas, OU
LSU, Ark, OM, MsSt
Bama, Aub, Tenn, Vandy
UGA, Fla, UK, SoCar
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Do they come up with some kind of three permanent opponents and then rotate the frick out of everyone which will cause seasons to be all over the place...
As long as they do it, it needs to be geographical first, anything else and someone is getting the easy way out and soemone is getting fricked.
If they would decide to go back to pods, you'd have to ensure that in state schools are in the same pods, correct? So the Texas, Alabama, Tennessee and Mississippi schools would all be together, setting the base for the pods and then you add them in geographically.
It would be the same geographical ones we've seen listed:
AM, Mizzou, Texas, OU
LSU, Ark, OM, MsSt
Bama, Aub, Tenn, Vandy
UGA, Fla, UK, SoCar
OR
Do they come up with some kind of three permanent opponents and then rotate the frick out of everyone which will cause seasons to be all over the place...
As long as they do it, it needs to be geographical first, anything else and someone is getting the easy way out and soemone is getting fricked.
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:17 am to wesman21
You might consider trading out Auburn and KY in your groupings since Auburn is mileage-wise the nearest school to UF and is an historic rival with UGA and UF. KY, TN, and Vandy are historical rivals as is UT with UA. AU and AL would still find a way to play each year.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:25 am to EssexTiger
I see your perspective, but I just don't see the powers that be splitting up any of the same state schools.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:33 am to wesman21
The only fair way to do it is do away with all permanent rivalries and every team rotate through all other teams.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:33 am to wesman21
I agree, divisions should've stayed. Just swap Mizzou and Vandy for Bama and Auburn.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:37 am to wesman21
I still believe the reason they haven't definitely said what the conference schedule will look like going forward is because they know there will be a final round of expansion happening very soon.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:48 am to TheTideMustRoll
I think you're probably right. After the Pac12 dissolved, they put it on pause.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:51 am to wesman21
A 3/6 model just makes too much sense, so I'm sure they'll find a way to frick it up.
It preserves all the historical/traditional rivals that everyone wants to keep, you will play every team in the SEC at a minimum every2 years, and you'll complete a full home/home series with every team in teh league in a 4 year period. It truly checks all the boxes.
It preserves all the historical/traditional rivals that everyone wants to keep, you will play every team in the SEC at a minimum every2 years, and you'll complete a full home/home series with every team in teh league in a 4 year period. It truly checks all the boxes.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 10:03 am to wesman21
I want no divisions, no permanent opponents, and nine SEC games. Just a round robin schedule.
Everyone will play everyone else every two years.
Rivalry games will mean more with a break in between.
Everyone will play everyone else every two years.
Rivalry games will mean more with a break in between.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 10:04 am to wesman21
I'd rather have FL, TN & Auburn as Georgia's permanent 3. Any configuration that doesn't honor the WLOCP and DSOR is hot garbage.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 10:09 am to wesman21
2 permanents.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 10:10 am to wesman21
We need a permanent Thanksgiving opponent. Everyone but LSU has one.
If ou stops playing okst then that’s a good move.
If ou stops playing okst then that’s a good move.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 10:12 am to wesman21
I want 2 divisions
Posted on 12/14/23 at 10:18 am to wesman21
I want to play Alabama, Auburn and Florida every year. I also want 9 conference games
Posted on 12/14/23 at 10:22 am to wesman21
We want Tennessee and Vandy.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 10:40 am to LSU Tigerhead
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I want no divisions, no permanent opponents, and nine SEC games. Just a round robin schedule.
Everyone will play everyone else every two years.
Rivalry games will mean more with a break in between.
I agree about no divisions. As for permanents, I think the 3-6 works if the SEC goes to 9 games. But I think all the ADs of the now 16 team SEC will want to take a look at how the 12 team Playoff looks next year.
So I do understand the need to preserve some of the traditional SEC rival games [UGA/UF, UGA/AU, Bama/AU, Bama/TENN, Ole Miss/State] and rival games coming in from the BIG12 [Texas/OU] and desire to bring back games like Texas/Texas A&M and Texas/Arkansas and OU/MIZZOU.
For LSU, lets be honest we don't have a true rival game that everyone in our fanbase across every generation, former and current players, former AD's and Administrators, alums, etc, etc says is the team that we hate to lose to.
I saw my first LSU game in person in 1970. The 5 teams that LSU played the most from the original SEC were State, Ole Miss, Bama, Florida and UK. LSU had a long history of playing Texas A&M before they joined the SEC. Tulane, Arkansas and Rice are the other 3 teams LSU has played the most. LSU in the 40's and 50's when my Father/Uncles were growing and 60's when I was born would regularly play Texas A&M, Arkansas and Rice OOC along with 6 SEC games of which the 5 SEC teams I mentioned above along with Tulane were the most often played teams
So who would be LSU's top 3, not sure and I think in reality it could be any combination of several teams. Woody our AD when asked which 3 teams would LSU like to have in a 3-6 model as our permanents said Texas A&M, Ole Miss and Bama. Bama though wants to ensure Auburn/TENN (which I 100% understand from the historical rival perspective) so I don't think LSU will play Bama in the 3-6.
Given all the required final weekend games:
UF/FSU
UK/Louisville
SCAR/Clemson
UGA/GA. Tech
Bama/Auburn
Ole Miss/Miss. State
TENN/Vandy
That leaves 6 teams (LSU, Texas, Texas A&M, OU, MIZZOU, Arkansas).
If Texas and Texas A&M want to play on the final week, then that leaves LSU, OU, Arkansas and Mizzou.
Given LSU and OU were set for the final weekend, it looks like in a 3-6 model OU could replace Bama as LSU's 3rd permanent with Ole Miss and Texas A&M
Then you have on the final weekend
LSU/OU
Arkansas/MIZZOU
OU would then have Texas/LSU/MIZZOU as their permanent 3
LSU would have Ole Miss/Texas A&M/OU
Arkansas would get Texas which makes them happy and MIZZOU as thanksgiving weekend game and another as 3rd.
The only other alternative would be for OU/MIZZOU to play the last weekend then LSU plays Arkansas and our permanent 3 are Texas A&M/Ole Miss/Arkansas.
I do know this, the buzz about LSU/OU as the last game next year has the early feeling of being one of those games were it is 100k plus in the stands and another 30-50k on campus tailgating. The last time that happened was the Bama game in 2022 and several games during the 2019 run where it was crazy from the morning to midnight on campus (UF and A&M games) and even the Auburn game that year at 2:30 on CBS.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 10:48 am to wesman21
With 16 teams and only 8 conference games there are going to be years where second, third or fourth tie-breakers come into play to decide who's going to play in the SECCG - and all hell will break loose with pissed off fans.
Because of that, two divisions where you play everyone else in your division would solve most tie-breaker scenarios.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 11:45 am to GoGators1995
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I agree, divisions should've stayed. Just swap Mizzou and Vandy for Bama and Auburn.
This is the simplest logical geographic approach.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 12:16 pm to wesman21
3 permanent opponents
This works even if they stick with 8 games
5/12 is not a bad rotation at all
This works even if they stick with 8 games
5/12 is not a bad rotation at all
Posted on 12/14/23 at 12:21 pm to dstone12
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We need a permanent Thanksgiving opponent. Everyone but LSU has one.
Easy solution was to give OU Mizzou and bring back LSU-Arkansas
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