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re: Do you think LSU would have scored a td if no pf was called?

Posted on 11/13/14 at 6:39 am to
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 6:39 am to
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les wasnt going to throw the ball with basically no chance of a td after the penalty.

had lsu been five yards out, a short pass is much more likely, just ask ole miss


That would have been dumb of Les Miles. Especially since LSU only completed 1 pass the entire 4th quarter. 1 out of 5 attempts, 1 sack.

Alabama was getting the ball back no matter what. If LSU attempts a pass and it's incomplete, it gives Alabama a timeout for their drive.

Also, if LSU had scored a TD, it gives Alabama a timeout(and a little extra time on top of it).

The entire drive was Les Miles running the clock as much as possible. The only way LSU would have scored a TD was if they got it on the ground. Which obviously Les Miles would have taken.
This post was edited on 11/13/14 at 6:40 am
Posted by northalabamacracker
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 6:43 am to
Very, very unlikely. Lesley was playing for the FG with that amount of time left.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 6:44 am to
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No one could ever no, but given the momentum and where we were, I would like our chances a heck of a lot more than being at the 21. It basically took a touchdown 'possibility' off the table, which is really the disappointment from an LSU perspective.


momentum?

You got the ball on the 6 yard line because of a fumble due to injury.

You did not score in the entire 4th quarter. The previous 2 drives were 3 and outs.

The 1st drive of the 4th which had some success was a total of 40 yards, but you started on your own 8 before punting.

You had 53 yards the entire 4th quarter. 52 if you count the last drive.

I'm not sure where the momentum was for LSU. Overall it looked to me like both offenses were pretty well stalled. Which is why most Alabama fans thought the game was over with the fumble and FG.
This post was edited on 11/13/14 at 6:45 am
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 6:46 am to
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Well we were trying to kill the clock and were already in fg range. So why would we need more? More yards would have been nice but not necessary.


Ok, were you trying to kill the clock on the 2 drives before that which went 3 and out?

Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 6:57 am to
No /thread
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22606 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 7:02 am to
btw, when Alabama kicked the FG to tie the game. It was 1st and goal on the LSU10.

So if LSU had scored a TD, given that Alabama would have had minimum 1 extra timeout(due to not needing to call it on 3rd down). And more time on the clock(due to no 4th down FG), Alabama still may have scored a TD of their own.

Pretty good game all the way around really.
Posted by Tidw4
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 7:02 am to
No. They would have fumbled going in at the goal. 2013
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 7:08 am to
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So why did your team have -1 yards for the drive not counting the PF?


Do you mean other than the fact that they were trying to center the ball and the last play was Jennings just running behind the line to the middle and falling down?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22606 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 7:10 am to
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Do you mean other than the fact that they were trying to center the ball and the last play was Jennings just running behind the line to the middle and falling down?


So, it's because you had runs of 0 yards and 1 yard before it.

Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4743 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 7:30 am to
Watch the replay. 2nd effort gained a yard on 1st play. Spotted no gain. 2 yards on the 2nd play, spotted as a yard gain...no big deal..he was running left to center it. They spotted it on the hash, thus the reason for Jennings' run.

But we have to look at the law of averages. LSU was running for 4 yds per. 3 plays from the 6? Yeah...I like LSU's chances. So did the refs...
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
Crimson Tide Fan Club
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 7:34 am to
If you did get the TD, we would likely have had a TO or 2 unless you get the td on 4th down. If that kick goes ob and we have 1 or 2 time outs the middle of the field is open for some plays and who knows what the result of that drive would be. I we get close enough with time we probably score on the rub play we scored on in OT.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 7:34 am to
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1st play: 0 yards(PF play).
2nd play: 1 yard
3rd play: -2 yards
this play was just getting the ball into the middle of the field, we didn't even try to gain yards. your logic is flawed
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 7:50 am to
yes
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 7:57 am to
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Sid E Walker


Lol your sig pic is an abomination sir
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 7:58 am to
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Pretty good game all the way around really.


Posted by sjmabry
Texas
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:23 am to
Posted by bamamonty
Jasper,Al
Member since Feb 2014
459 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:30 am to
Let's get this straight, if on second down, they didn't get the ball inside the 2, the third down play would have been to set the kicker up for a sure shot FG. That's the way Saban would have done it. Also, I believe that's the way Les would do it. In essence, only one more play to score TD-a running play.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41880 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:32 am to
Well...Bama had ONE first down in the 2nd Half until the final drive.

So, you can't say definitive either way. IMO, a TD would have happened and it would have essentially sealed it.

The PF was a BS call
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22606 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:46 am to
quote:

this play was just getting the ball into the middle of the field, we didn't even try to gain yards. your logic is flawed


Ok, so explain the 2 previous 3 and outs.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22606 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:47 am to
quote:

Well...Bama had ONE first down in the 2nd Half until the final drive.

So, you can't say definitive either way. IMO, a TD would have happened and it would have essentially sealed it.

The PF was a BS call


Alabama drove the field and had 1st and goal from the LSU 10 on the final drive.

A LSU TD would have meant Alabama had minimum 1 TO to work with, and a little extra time.

So, no.

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