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re: Do Away with the SEC Championship Game.

Posted on 12/3/13 at 6:16 pm to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 6:16 pm to
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The SECCG starting next year only serves our competention.



No more than the Pac 12 Championship, or the B1G Championship. The SEC won't get more than one team in, but again, why is that some sort of unfair advantage? That doesn't make sense.
Posted by Eagle of War
Member since Nov 2010
483 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 6:18 pm to
I'd rather win the SEC than any bowl game except the NC.
Posted by GurleyManandProud020
Rocky Face
Member since Sep 2012
484 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 6:32 pm to
The SEC always does what is best money wise for the conference. So is it going to generate more money to play the conference championship game and only have one team in the four team playoff or is the conference going to make more money not playing the conference championship game and getting two teams in the four team playoff.

I don't know but you can bet your arse that the league with investigate both scenarios and come up with what is best for the conference and go with it.

And FYI the powers that be could care less if one team or three teams get to call their selves conference champion all they care about is what is best financially for the conference.
Posted by rocketc
Member since Oct 2013
270 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 7:33 pm to
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S.E.C. Crazy

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The SECCG is a great event and no one is arguing that point, but say we go to an 8 team playoff, AU or Mizzou would probably be left out with a loss, being in the playoff will be a much larger event.


I'm certain your concern for Auburn and Mizzou is the driving force behind your statement.
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
6856 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 7:48 pm to
The committee will rig it so only one SEC team makes the playoffs (book it) to prevent another all SEC championship. (Of course the first one should've never happened in 2011)
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 7:52 pm to
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The committee will rig it so only one SEC team makes the playoffs (book it) to prevent another all SEC championship. (Of course the first one should've never happened in 2011)


Correct. This assumption that two SEC teams in the playoff is going to happen all the time is just ridiculous. Oklahoma State, if the playoff were this year... would go over Alabama.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
12652 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:15 pm to
a better idea would be to change rule 17.9.1.2 © and require leagues to have 16 teams instead of 12 in order to have a conference championship game. Bring on the expansion phase and eliminate the big 12 as a conference. In the end, there would be less leagues that feed into the playoffs.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:23 pm to
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a better idea would be to change rule 17.9.1.2 © and require leagues to have 16 teams instead of 12 in order to have a conference championship game. Bring on the expansion phase and eliminate the big 12 as a conference. In the end, there would be less leagues that feed into the playoffs.


Absolute stupidity.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:26 pm to
Correct, that's why we were snubbed as one of the best two. You know that you are just too easy.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15372 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:37 pm to
I really like the idea of adding another team to each division and eliminating the SECCG.

7 intra-division games.

2-3 cross division games...I'd prefer 3.

1-2 cupcakes...let's face it, we all need 'em to get backups some quality time and seniors who don't see the field much some PT.

1-2 OOC reasonably good opponent.

I think the odds of getting 2 teams into the playoff go up that way. I do think we'd want to re-balance the divisions a bit though.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:44 pm to
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I think the odds of getting 2 teams into the playoff go up that way. I do think we'd want to re-balance the divisions a bit though.


Why do we need two teams in the playoff? That's absolutely stupid.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15372 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:19 pm to
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Why do we need two teams in the playoff? That's absolutely stupid.


Why?

MONEY. Those playoff games are going to be fantastically lucrative.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
9914 posts
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:28 pm to
I would agree that Oklahoma State would jump Alabama as the fourth slot on the roster this year only if they win out against Oklahoma, if Ohio State loses to MSU and Mizzou tops Auburn then shite would get real.
Posted by ColtonH
Member since Mar 2013
228 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 5:46 pm to
I heard an ESPN analyst saying if this were a playoff year a one-loss OK St team(which lost to an unranked West Va team and plays in a weaker conference) would likely go to the playoff over Alabama (who lost to the number 4 team in the country on a last minute play) I tend to agree, because regional bias and SEC fatigue will make the playoff system even more of a beauty contest than the BCS.
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 5:51 pm
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:09 pm to
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There are 3 11-1 teams. Even with head-to-head (of which Missouri played neither team), you end up with 3 co-champs, and... what? A coin toss between Missouri and Auburn on who gets to the Sugar Bowl? Just look at 1989. We had three co-champs that year, all 6-1, all having beaten each other (Alabama beat Tennessee, who beat Auburn, who beat Alabama). You want to go back to that again?
Hell no I don't want to go back to that again; where a committee decided who played for the national championship.
We've progressed way past that.
Starting next year we'll have a committee decide who plays for the national championship.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:10 pm to
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I heard an ESPN analyst saying if this were a playoff year a one-loss OK St team(which lost to an unranked West Va team and plays in a weaker conference) would likely go to the playoff over Alabama (who lost to the number 4 team in the country on a last minute play) I tend to agree, because regional bias and SEC fatigue will make the playoff system even more of a beauty contest than the BCS.



And why should anyone care. Alabama doesn't deserve a shot at a National Title. It couldn't win it's own division. Nothing would be more beauty contest than giving Alabama another shot at it.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
9914 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:15 pm to
Oklahoma currently leads the series 83–17–7. [7] The series has historically been very lopsided in the Sooners' favor; Oklahoma State has defeated OU twice in a row just three times since World War II.

this
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:17 pm to
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And why should anyone care. Alabama doesn't deserve a shot at a National Title. It couldn't win it's own division. Nothing would be more beauty contest than giving Alabama another shot at it.




Don't you know the eyeball test is the end all be all now in cfb.
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
20336 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:23 pm to
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Mark Richt would probably be the only one in your camp.

It is a huge event, most of the time. Not going away.

I can think of all of zero times where we would have been SEC champions if not for the game.

Impeccable logic.
Posted by GumBro Jackson
Raleigh
Member since Mar 2011
3114 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:34 pm to
The SEC Championship Game is one of the premier games in college football. IMO it is more meaningful than a Sugar or Rose Bowl. As the most successful conference championship game it builds the prestige of the conference.

As a football fan, I appreciate that it has produced some great games and the goal of every team in the SEC is to "get to Atlanta". I was around in the 80's and IMO, it is a lot more fun to have your team go to the SECCG than to get a "share" of the SEC championship.

I hear what you are saying about a hypothetical extra spot in the four team playoff, but I think the benefits of the SECCG far outweigh the costs.
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