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re: Dismissal of Johnson Is a Bad Sign for Auburn
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:37 am to NaturalStateReb
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:37 am to NaturalStateReb
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Third, part of the reason why Auburn is struggling on defense is the revolving door of coordinators on that side of the ball. If you think this isn't the kind of thing that can eventually get you run out of town, just ask Will Muschamp. This will put Auburn in the position of having its fourth DC in five years. Any kind of consistency in scheme, performance, or recruiting will be difficult to maintain in such an insecure environment.
They dumped E.J., pretty quick. Somethin's Up. If it's CWM, Auburn, is gonna be hard to handle from now on.
I'm probably one of the very few that didn't want to see CWM, leave Florida.
I love his frickin brand of football!
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Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:38 am to NaturalStateReb
It looks bad that AU will be on their fourth DC in five years, but there were no positive trends to look for. Getting gashed on the ground and giving up big plays through the air became commonplace, something had to change.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:39 am to sbr2
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It looks bad that AU will be on their fourth DC in five years, but there were no positive trends to look for. Getting gashed on the ground and giving up big plays through the air became commonplace, something had to change.
It's not ideal, but the caveat of a coaching change (paradigm shift, really) can't be ignored in looking at the number of DCs.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:41 am to NaturalStateReb
36.4 ppg in the six games following the win over LSU. I've been concerned about creating more instability but the fact remains that the defense was regressing dramatically over the last several weeks. From the small improvement made last year to the first half of this season, it looked promising. But you simply cannot allow that many points to be scored on a championship contending team and expect to keep your job. The offense was under immense pressure and the ineptitude of the defense altered situational play calling. It's disappointing and I like EJ, but this is a results-oriented business and the numbers were not in his favor.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 9:56 am
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:41 am to Pettifogger
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It's natural to want a top 10 coordinator to try for top 30 results, isn't it?
At what point does it come down to players executing? A DC can call the perfect defensive scheme, but the players have to execute it. Why is that the DC's fault?
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:41 am to NaturalStateReb
With the style of offense Auburn plays its gonna be more difficult to have a REALLY good defense than it is for other offensive styles just because of the lack of rest on the sidelines between drives. Part of Gus's philosophy is a high number of plays per game which wears down the defense in the 4th quarter. The problem is that it does the same thing to their own defense (admittedly at a slightly lower rate as long as they arent playing another team with the same offensive philosophy).
With all that said, if they are able to land Will Muschamp, then this will be a good overall move just for the sake of recruiting itself. You will have a LOT of highly ranked players looking at Auburn that wouldnt normally be looking just because of Will in my opinion.
With all that said, if they are able to land Will Muschamp, then this will be a good overall move just for the sake of recruiting itself. You will have a LOT of highly ranked players looking at Auburn that wouldnt normally be looking just because of Will in my opinion.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:42 am to NaturalStateReb
Anyone that thinks it was Gus's decision is delusional. Drunk Dye and Rane are still calling all the shots. Gus is just a puppet and Jay Jacobs is their lackey.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:44 am to Lg
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At what point does it come down to players executing? A DC can call the perfect defensive scheme, but the players have to execute it. Why is that the DC's fault?
You're not wrong, but if we have good defensive players and they continually fail to execute, either we're on a really bad run of luck or there is a problem with the defensive coaching.
Ellis had the misfortune of facing a challenge this season with some really debilitating injuries. On that basis, I think Gus could have reasonably given him another year, but at the same time, does anyone think EJ is an innovative mind well suited to face the increasing offenses of the SEC while playing on a potentially HUNH team? I'd be surprised if anyone does.
People are looking for reasons why this move spells doom for Auburn. I just don't think you're going to find them.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:44 am to NaturalStateReb
It's not like his defense got better down the stretch. It got worse. If it had stayed the same or only had a small drop off but stayed consistent then you could have made a case to keep him. Through the last 6 SEC games Auburn gave up more points than it ever has in history.
Scheme wise a 4-3 isn't much different except you have a "Star" position no good recruit wants to play.
As for the HUNH affecting it. Auburn doesn't run hunh near as much as people who don't have a clue claims. If other team's can run more plays and play better on Defense still then it's not the offense holding it back.
Scheme wise a 4-3 isn't much different except you have a "Star" position no good recruit wants to play.
As for the HUNH affecting it. Auburn doesn't run hunh near as much as people who don't have a clue claims. If other team's can run more plays and play better on Defense still then it's not the offense holding it back.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 9:49 am
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:45 am to NaturalStateReb
Score 44 in regulation and still lose by double digits? It's safe to say he wasn't working out.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:45 am to RollDawgRoll
Little early to be drinking, don't you think?
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:47 am to Lg
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Why is that the DC's fault?
It's his fault for not being able to motivate the players to execute. If there are other teams with lower caliber recruited players that put up top 25 defenses with similiar offenses...to me thats a coaching problem. There were also no adjustments made in the Iron Bowl by Ellis.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:47 am to NaturalStateReb
TL.DR but laughing at you and your title
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:48 am to RollDawgRoll
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Anyone that thinks it was Gus's decision is delusional. Drunk Dye and Rane are still calling all the shots.
You're right, I'm sure Gus was pleased with the results and wanted to keep him.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:51 am to RollDawgRoll
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Anyone that thinks it was Gus's decision is delusional. Drunk Dye and Rane are still calling all the shots. Gus is just a puppet and Jay Jacobs is their lackey.
Anyone that believes your post is beyond delusional.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:55 am to Lg
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I'm still of the opinion, that with Gus's offense, they will never have an elite defense. Just look at the BIG12. Great offenses but meh defenses
That's like the 3rd bama fan I've heard say this, which is telling in itself considering were talking about their rival.
It doesn't make any sense to me. Why can't an entirely different unit with different coaching/personnel/scheme co-exist with a great offense??? They have the resources to match anyone. Please explain yourself.
Oh and save yourself the TOP argument, it's just not true, go back and look at stats.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:00 am to mwade91383
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Please explain yourself.
I explained it in my post. basically it boils down to more plays per game equal lower stamina on the defensive side. Now if they are good enough to force short drives and lots of 3 and outs, then its not a big deal, but that isnt going to happen against teams with good offenses, and those teams are going to be facing a wore out defense in the 4th.
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Oh and save yourself the TOP argument, it's just not true, go back and look at stats.
Its not about TOP, its about number of plays. Those 2 things dont ALWAYS correlate.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:01 am to Rabern57
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Scheme wise a 4-3 isn't much different except you have a "Star" position no good recruit wants to play.
Wat.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:01 am to ThaKaptin
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Its not about TOP, its about number of plays.
Bama ran 872 plays in 2014 and Auburn ran 873.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:02 am to ThaKaptin
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Its not about TOP, its about number of plays. Those 2 things dont ALWAYS correlate.
Still, Alabama ran pretty much the same number of plays this season.
Auburn's offense will put pressure on the defense at times. But a serviceable defense with a strong offense can win championships. A strong offense and bad defense, and you're going to the Belk Bowl.
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