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re: Definitive ranking of SEC baseball programs historically
Posted on 4/15/15 at 1:15 pm to Tuscaloosa
Posted on 4/15/15 at 1:15 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Tuscaloosa
Definitive ranking of SEC baseball programs historically
Bama should be ranked higher due to number of overall wins - which is tops in the SEC, and 15th overall nationally.
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You mean like football ? (Alabama is # 6)
Updated as of January 13, 2015
The followings list displays the record for all NCAA football programs with 600 or more wins.
Rank Team Won Lost Tied Pct. [a] Games
1 Michigan 915 328 36 .729 1279
2 Texas 884 362 55 .701 1301
3 Notre Dame 882 310 42 .732 1234
4 Nebraska 881 346 33 .712 1260
5 Ohio State [b] 863 319 39 .720 1221[1]
6 (T) Oklahoma 850 317 53 .718 1220
6 (T) Alabama[c] 850 325 43 .716 1218
8 Penn State 849 376 41 .687 1266
9 Harvard 848 383 50 .681 1282
10 Penn 830 481 42 .629 1353
11 Tennessee 811 367 53 .680 1231
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Posted on 4/15/15 at 1:18 pm to Bench McElroy
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Arkansas Razorbacks baseball is very solid and consistent but nothing spectacular so they're basically like every other Arkansas sports team.
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Posted on 4/15/15 at 1:43 pm to MetryTyger
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You mean like football ? (Alabama is # 6)
What are you getting at?
I'm not sure what the significance of the underlined and bolded part of my quote is.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 1:55 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Tuscaloosa
Definitive ranking of SEC baseball programs historically
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You mean like football ? (Alabama is # 6)
What are you getting at?
I'm not sure what the significance of the underlined and bolded part of my quote is.
Just messing with you. I just it found a little ironic that you brought up "number of wins" as a significant criteria for success (which I think it is too, actually);
But many Alabama fans do not seem to use that same criteria for Bama's FOOTBALL historical success (as they are only #6 all-time IN WINS), but rather their all time SEC and national championships, and recent success.
In other words, Bama's # of championships and their recent success (in SOME of y'alls eyes) suddenly has propelled Alabama to the #1 all-time historical program above Michigan, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, and Texas all-time; despite those programs having more all-time wins than Alabama.
But, conversely, # of wins seems to be an acceptable criteria for historical all-time success in BASEBALL.
Didn't mean anything disrespectful by it, just noticed the paradox.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 2:04 pm to MetryTyger
Oh, I was just using the number of wins to add to the equation, because it is important to an extent - regardless of the sport. It's certainly not the most important criteria of any sport - but it should be a part of the ranking process.
In football, the criteria should obviously include overall wins, conference championships, national championships, bowl appearances, bowl victories, 10 win seasons, undefeated seasons, etc...
In baseball, it should include of overall wins, conference championships, national championships, NCAA appearances, CWS appearances, etc...
In football, Bama isn't considered to be the #1 program of all time by some - only due to the total wins ranking. Conversely, in baseball, our total wins ranking should boost our overall ranking within the conference.
You get what I'm saying.
In football, the criteria should obviously include overall wins, conference championships, national championships, bowl appearances, bowl victories, 10 win seasons, undefeated seasons, etc...
In baseball, it should include of overall wins, conference championships, national championships, NCAA appearances, CWS appearances, etc...
In football, Bama isn't considered to be the #1 program of all time by some - only due to the total wins ranking. Conversely, in baseball, our total wins ranking should boost our overall ranking within the conference.
You get what I'm saying.
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 4/15/15 at 5:18 pm to MetryTyger
quote:Alabama had 8 victories and 1 tie forfeited by the NCAA during the 1993 football season. Alabama had 21 victories vacated by the NCAA between the 2005-2007 football seasons....just saying.
Rank Team Won Lost Tied Pct. [a] Games 1 Michigan 915 328 36 .729 1279 2 Texas 884 362 55 .701 1301 3 Notre Dame 882 310 42 .732 1234 4 Nebraska 881 346 33 .712 1260 5 Ohio State [b] 863 319 39 .720 1221[1] 6 (T) Oklahoma 850 317 53 .718 1220 6 (T) Alabama[c] 850 325 43 .716 1218 8 Penn State 849 376 41 .687 1266 9 Harvard 848 383 50 .681 1282 10 Penn 830 481 42 .629 1353 11 Tennessee 811 367 53 .680 1231
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 4/15/15 at 5:28 pm to hogminer
So is the thread titled "Definitive ranking of SEC basbeall programs over the last 20 years" or "Maybe definitive ranking of SEC basball programs over the last 15 years"?
Its not surprising that a group of rednecks would have a hard time wrapping their heads around the term "historically"
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 4/15/15 at 6:39 pm to Rebel Land Shark
It's respectable the way Vandy wins in their environment
Posted on 4/15/15 at 8:39 pm to scrooster
Hey Rooster..
I love your sig
I love your sig
Posted on 4/15/15 at 8:44 pm to RoyalAir
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I have no problem being no. 2 to LSU. But it would appear that the gap is widening, instead of closing. Holbrook.
Meanwhile in Columbia... "Did you hear, our 15 year NCAA tournament streak is about to end.."
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:23 pm to RoyalAir
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I have no problem being no. 2 to LSU. But it would appear that the gap is widening, instead of closing. Holbrook.
Not quite. Even LSU missed out on the tournament all-together in 2011.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 9:38 am to DorchesterGamecock
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Hey Rooster..
I love your sig
From four to three ...
I suppose I could replace him with our golf coach though.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:06 am to coachcrisp
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coachcrisp
Definitive ranking of SEC baseball programs historically
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Rank Team Won Lost Tied Pct. [a] Games 1 Michigan 915 328 36 .729 1279 2 Texas 884 362 55 .701 1301 3 Notre Dame 882 310 42 .732 1234 4 Nebraska 881 346 33 .712 1260 5 Ohio State [b] 863 319 39 .720 1221[1] 6 (T) Oklahoma 850 317 53 .718 1220 6 (T) Alabama[c] 850 325 43 .716 1218 8 Penn State 849 376 41 .687 1266 9 Harvard 848 383 50 .681 1282 10 Penn 830 481 42 .629 1353 11 Tennessee 811 367 53 .680 1231
Alabama had 8 victories and 1 tie forfeited by the NCAA during the 1993 football season. Alabama had 21 victories vacated by the NCAA between the 2005-2007 football seasons....just saying.
Good call coachc,
Those 29 forfeited/vacated wins would bring Alabama one notch higher from 6th to 5th all time in wins.
I wonder if any of the other blue bloods had wins forfeited/vacated also? Just wondering (not flaming.)
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:42 am to MetryTyger
But it would also put Alabama in position to move into second place in the next 2-3 years, considering the state of Notre Dame, Texas, and Nebraska. Those programs would be hard pressed to win 10 games on average over the next 2-3 seasons. Something Alabama has done for 7 consecutive years and seemingly will for the forseeable future.
But all that's conjecture, because the NCAA isn't given back 21 wins over textbooks but gave back over 100 wins to Penn State over the Sandusky stuff.
But all that's conjecture, because the NCAA isn't given back 21 wins over textbooks but gave back over 100 wins to Penn State over the Sandusky stuff.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:47 am to CapstoneGrad06
True.
But Bama DOES have a chance to pass tOSU in the next few years for #5.
LSU has a chance to pass UGA (we're only a few wins behind the Bulldogs) to get into the Top Ten all-time in number of victories soon.
But Bama DOES have a chance to pass tOSU in the next few years for #5.
LSU has a chance to pass UGA (we're only a few wins behind the Bulldogs) to get into the Top Ten all-time in number of victories soon.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:48 am to Bench McElroy
This is no joke. You ask most people living in Lexington where Cliff Hagen Stadium is located and I guarantee 80% asked could not tell you.
Mainly because nobody gives two shits about the baseball team, but also because it is placed in a ridiculously stupid location that nobody can get.
Also, parking is a bitch. So if you do somehow manage to care enough and stumble upon the place when the team has a game. The chances of you actually getting a parking spot that will not get you towed as soon as you exit your vehicle is nothing short of a miracle.
Mainly because nobody gives two shits about the baseball team, but also because it is placed in a ridiculously stupid location that nobody can get.
Also, parking is a bitch. So if you do somehow manage to care enough and stumble upon the place when the team has a game. The chances of you actually getting a parking spot that will not get you towed as soon as you exit your vehicle is nothing short of a miracle.
This post was edited on 4/16/15 at 11:49 am
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:44 pm to Bench McElroy
UK finished 11th in the country in last year's Director's Cup Standings. And, AD Mitch Barnhart is currently a Finalist for National AD of the year. Great job of doing your homework!
Mitch Barnhart
2014 Director's Cup Standings
Mitch Barnhart
2014 Director's Cup Standings
Posted on 4/16/15 at 2:47 pm to Bench McElroy
We actually won 2 CWS games?
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