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re: Defensive success against HUNH
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:35 pm to DMagic
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:35 pm to DMagic
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We had 526 yards of offense. Did Mett throw for all of those too?
No, but if he wouldn't have thrown the 3 ints LSU would have outscored Ole Miss. It's not about yards but about points.
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:36 pm to constant cough
If we hadn't fumbled twice we would've beaten you by more.
If Bo doesn't throw two picks and we don't allow a punt return we win in 2012.
See how easy that was?
If Bo doesn't throw two picks and we don't allow a punt return we win in 2012.
See how easy that was?
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:36 pm to constant cough
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Their offense didn't beat LSU their defense did. Mett threw 3 ints.
and Bama lost to AU because they couldn't make field goals.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:37 pm to constant cough
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It's not about yards but about points.
Unless you are comparing Bama's Ole Miss game to LSU's Ole Miss game then it is about interceptions
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:39 pm to bamafan1001
I think it's way overblown to attempt to argue that Alabama's run is over. But Alabama has spent considerable time recruiting more athletic LBs and DBs. The last two classes show that. It's just going to take time to develop them. But Alabama won't move away from its base defense entirely. That would lead to issues with power teams.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:41 pm to DMagic
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See how easy that was?
Yes the worlds of 'if' are infinite. But I still don't think your offense was what cost LSU that game.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:42 pm to StopRobot
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They beat LSU last year which is something AUs HUNH didn't do
Bama Fan:
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That was just a freaking lucky game and one of LSU's biggest flub ups I've seen in a while. Bro Wallace channeled his inner Garcia in that game.
im sure we will this year. like i said in my other posts. its basically 7 on 7 now. and i think we have the upperhand in talent this year
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:43 pm to constant cough
I know because you're an LSU fan. Which is fine I get it. But the whole narrative of LSU being better at defending the HUNH while dismissing our success against your scheme is disingenuous at best.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:44 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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This is such a myth. They've had great success against Texas A&M. Other teams that play fast have had a lot of success against the lsu defense. Even in a losing effort teams like WVU and Oregon racked up yards and points against lsu. Then you have teams like OM and Clemson that have parlayed that success into victories. They do a great job against the aggies, but to say they've had great success against that style of offense in general would be incorrect, and they've had light and fast defenses for years.
Bruh, give credit where credit is due. LSU DOES excel against these types of offenses. The record speaks for itself. WVU and Oregon racked up yards and points and LOST by double digits because we kept them out of the endzone when it mattered. Isn't keeping offenses out of the endzone what defense is all about.
We lost to OM fair and square but don't forget Mett threw three picks. That loss had as much to do with OM's D as it did their offense. And lets be fair here, OM scored 27 points. Thats a great outing but I don't any one would look at a score like that and say "No one played defense in that game."
Finally, the Clemson loss was on our O (I give credit to Clemson's D). Offense could not stay on the field and give our D a break. D was on the field for over 100 snaps. 100 SNAPS! I don't care what Defense it is, its gonna be hard to win a game like that.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:45 pm to StopRobot
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and Bama lost to AU because they couldn't make field goals.
and got beat in the run game.
thank AJ for even keeping Bama in that game. a lot like UGA needs to thank Aaron. Our weakness was the deep pass. which is why we did bad up until RED ZONE, then people found it much harder to score when they couldnt throw deep.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:48 pm to DamnStrong1860
Ole Miss would've scored more but we fumbled at midfield after an 8 yard run. Not to mention the 2012 game where we scored 35.(With multiple turnovers). LSU has had success against the HUNH so has Bama. Nobody has the secret to stop every offense not even Chavis or Saban.
This post was edited on 9/5/14 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:48 pm to StopRobot
The reason why LSU has struggled against power run teams lately is the DTs and MLB. When we stopped those teams we had 4-5 excellent to good DTs which could rotate and be fresh and good MLB play.
Lately we have had 1 or 2 good DTs who have to play more snaps and tire and not stellar MLB play.
Chavis defenses have always relied on lighter faster types...when you have Brockers and Logan in the middle backed by very solid back ups and a good MLB or two we typically stopped all comers from getting in the endzone very much. Even when Oregon and WV scored it took them 5 to 10 minutes to do it because we mostly eliminated the huge plays.
Lately we have had 1 or 2 good DTs who have to play more snaps and tire and not stellar MLB play.
Chavis defenses have always relied on lighter faster types...when you have Brockers and Logan in the middle backed by very solid back ups and a good MLB or two we typically stopped all comers from getting in the endzone very much. Even when Oregon and WV scored it took them 5 to 10 minutes to do it because we mostly eliminated the huge plays.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:49 pm to bamafan1001
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LSU
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the teams they have lost to and struggled against
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Ole Miss)
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:49 pm to DMagic
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But the whole narrative of LSU being better at defending the HUNH while dismissing our success against your scheme is disingenuous at best.
No, it's not. Every HUNH team that plays LSU gets a ton of yards. You scored 27 points. We should have been able to out score you. It was the Ole Miss defense that made the difference.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:50 pm to bamafan1001
It’s a different era of College Football. Teams just run so many more plays and have athletic players in the backfield and perimeter that make one guy miss and get chunks of yards.
It is mind boggling that A&M’s QB passed for 500+ yds in his first career start in a game they were pretty much in control of the entire time!!! Now factor in the threw it 60+ times and you get a different perspective, not taking anything away from Hill who played very well. A team like Bama or LSU will get 250 or so in the air but rarely will reach 30 throws unless they fall well behind which very rarely happens. There is not that big a difference of the productivity per play.
Throwing the ball that much inflates stats and puts points in the board. It can also loose game that teams shouldn’t. 2012 LSU at A&M is perfect example. Against an athletic secondary if you put the ball in the air so many times you’ll rack some points and yards but the other team will snag a few as well.
It is mind boggling that A&M’s QB passed for 500+ yds in his first career start in a game they were pretty much in control of the entire time!!! Now factor in the threw it 60+ times and you get a different perspective, not taking anything away from Hill who played very well. A team like Bama or LSU will get 250 or so in the air but rarely will reach 30 throws unless they fall well behind which very rarely happens. There is not that big a difference of the productivity per play.
Throwing the ball that much inflates stats and puts points in the board. It can also loose game that teams shouldn’t. 2012 LSU at A&M is perfect example. Against an athletic secondary if you put the ball in the air so many times you’ll rack some points and yards but the other team will snag a few as well.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:51 pm to StopRobot
quote:Auburn had bigger plans.
They beat LSU last year which is something AUs HUNH didn't do
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:53 pm to wadewilson
Explain the 35 in 2012. Both games were hotly contested with turnovers on both sides like I expect again this year. But make no mistake Freeze's offense gives Chavis a problem. No idea why it's just a fact.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:55 pm to DamnStrong1860
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We lost to OM fair and square but don't forget Mett threw three picks
I hate to say this but our defense cost us this game. Mett did what he had to do to make up for it, he led LSU back and tied it in the 4th quarter. The defense didn't have one 3rd down stop the entire 2nd half - just one stop and we probably win this game.
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Clemson loss was on our O (I give credit to Clemson's D). Offense could not stay on the field and give our D a break. D was on the field for over 100 snaps. 100 SNAPS! I don't care what Defense it is, its gonna be hard to win a game like that.
Yep. You can't blame the defense for this one. This was one of the worst offensive performances I've seen.
LSU is very patient when they play a HUNH offense. Sure, we give up yards, but every HUNH offense we play eventually has a communication breakdown that leads to a int. or a timely sack and LSU grabs the momentum from there.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:56 pm to DMagic
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offense gives Chavis a problem. No idea why it's just a fact.
This is true I hate to admit. Wallace has been lights out against LSU the last two years. I know he has iffy moments against others at times but not against LSU it seems..
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:58 pm to DMagic
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Explain the 35 in 2012. Both games were hotly contested with turnovers on both sides like I expect again this year. But make no mistake Freeze's offense gives Chavis a problem. No idea why it's just a fact.
Honestly, I'd just call them what they looked like - sloppy games. There was what, a dozen turnovers btw both teams in these games? It happens.
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