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re: Debunking the myth of BCS "matches two 'best' teams in the country" (semi-long)

Posted on 12/7/11 at 5:41 pm to
Posted by tiger7166
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
2619 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 5:41 pm to
I think where it went wrong was trying to determine the second best team in the country. It should have tried to decide the best team. Is it Oregon? No LSU and USC beat them. Is It Stanford? Don't know. Is it OK State? Dont know? didn't play the perceived # 1. Is it Bama?
No they lost to the percieved #1.
Posted by bingo
indy-freakin'-anna
Member since Sep 2008
4204 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 5:45 pm to
why does alabama have to defend this? it's the bcs system that every team that has a chance to be in the bcsng signed onto.

we're in the game, your team is in the game. it's how the system worked out. it has seemed to work in favor of the sec in most years, even when the rest of the country might not have agreed.
Posted by Schwaaz
Member since Sep 2009
7375 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 5:53 pm to
It's two highest ranked teams not the two most deserving.

The system works. It has the two highest ranked teams playing for the NC. OSU's horrible loss to ISU was a knock out factor. Sorry to bust your bubble but Bama is playing for your title. We want to take it away.

What I think is some fans like you want to set up an argument where if Bama wins you can claim a championship on some deserving bull shite.
Posted by ProbyOne
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2004
1914 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 5:58 pm to
quote:

Everybody nationwide keeps saying the BCS was designed "to match the two best teams" in a winner-take all national title scenario.

I couldn't agree less.


From the BCS official website:

quote:

It is designed to ensure that the two top-rated teams in the country meet in the national championship game


Where is the confusion exactly?

LINK
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20415 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 6:02 pm to
the BCS is not supposed to match the two best teams, it is the two top ranked teams, this whole garbage about the 2 best teams is shite started by Craig Im a fig James
Posted by blkhawktiger
Glad All Over
Member since Nov 2011
2014 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 6:02 pm to
Not at all. Like I said, the BCSNG is a winner-take-all scenario, and I like that it is.

Point of the whole thing was what determines "best" teams.
Posted by blkhawktiger
Glad All Over
Member since Nov 2011
2014 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 6:04 pm to
Again, my argument was the "two top-rated teams" can not be determined by a perception-based "better" argument. It should be a position based on merit of that year only.
Posted by ProbyOne
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2004
1914 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

the BCS is not supposed to match the two best teams, it is the two top ranked teams, this whole garbage about the 2 best teams is shite started by Craig Im a fig James



Ohhhh so the two top ranked teams doesn't mean the two best teams

Not sure if serious.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 6:06 pm to
Too stupid; didn't read.
Posted by bingo
indy-freakin'-anna
Member since Sep 2008
4204 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

Point of the whole thing was what determines "best" teams.


what determines the two top ranked teams is the bcs system of voters and computers---the bcs system that was signed on the dotted line by your school and every other school that is given a chance to play in the bcsncg.


Posted by SabanIsAGod
Jackson
Member since Oct 2009
3880 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 6:10 pm to
You poor bastards are scared to death. Greatest season ever is in major jeopardy.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7798 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 6:10 pm to

quote:

Again, my argument was the "two top-rated teams" can not be determined by a perception-based "better" argument. It should be a position based on merit of that year only.


Here's an "unnamed" breakdown of the top 6 wins of each team that even leaves out the LOSS even though that played a HUGE factor in how voters RANKED the teams:


Team A

Best Win = 7 points @Home vs #10 team*

2nd best win = 24 points @Home vs #14 team

3rd best Win = 34 points @Home vs #19 team

4th Best Win = 21 Points Road vs Unranked 7-5 Bowl Team

5th Best Win = 12 Points Road vs 7-5 Bowl Team

6th Best Win = 1 Point Road vs 6-6 Bowl team*


TEAM B

Best Win = 24 points @Home vs #7 team

2nd best win = 16 points ROAD Win vs #23 team

3rd best Win = 28 pts ROAD Win vs 7-5 Bowl Team

4th Best Win = 28 pts ROAD Win vs 6-6 Bowl Team

5th Best Win = 17 pts ROAD Win vs 6-6 Bowl Team

6th Best Win = 34 Points @home vs 6-6 Bowl Team


Where is this huge advantage one team has that should make voters RANKING them not consider the losses?


Posted by Schwaaz
Member since Sep 2009
7375 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 6:11 pm to

Thanks for visiting the Bowl Championship Series (BCS) official website. The BCS is one of the most successful events in the history of college football, yet it is often misunderstood. We hope the information on this site will help answer your questions and give you an accurate picture of what the BCS is and isn't.

The BCS is a five-game showcase of college football. It is designed to ensure that the two top-rated teams in the country meet in the national championship game, and to create exciting and competitive matchups among eight other highly regarded teams in four other bowl games. For more on the background of the BCS, click here.

It has been undeniably successful in achieving those goals. Thanks to the BCS, the top two teams have played each other 12 times in 12 years by BCS measurements and nine times in the last 12 according to the AP poll -- including the last six years in a row. Additionally, it has provided more access to the major bowls for all eleven conferences, more television exposure, and more postseason revenue than ever before.

This site is a resource for college football fans, media and others interested in how the system works. Check here often for news about the BCS and the schools, conferences and bowls.
Posted by Joe Banks
Waponi Woo
Member since May 2008
604 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

Alahunter


So there is no way that Okie State could beat Bama.

Look what LSU did to the much superior Bama boys in their house.

Hell I believe LSU won 9 to 6 and they still aren't regarded as the better team.
Posted by blkhawktiger
Glad All Over
Member since Nov 2011
2014 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 6:12 pm to
what determines the two top ranked teams is the bcs system of voters and computers---the bcs system that was signed on the dotted line by your school and every other school that is given a chance to play in the bcsncg.

no shite we did! you cant see past the fact that I said anything related to Bama to understand anything else.

Thread is about how the BCS operates today was not by its original design, which was to base postseason match-ups (National Champ. being its focus) solely off of that season's results rather than a historical perception of a program.
Posted by bingo
indy-freakin'-anna
Member since Sep 2008
4204 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 6:17 pm to
quote:

Thread is about how the BCS operates today was not by its original design, which was to base postseason match-ups (National Champ. being its focus) solely off of that season's results rather than a historical perception of a program.


i thought the bcs left the interpretation of the season's results up to the computers and to the voters.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20415 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 6:19 pm to
trust me LSU players are laughing at Bama now they wanted them from the start.
Posted by bingo
indy-freakin'-anna
Member since Sep 2008
4204 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

trust me LSU players are laughing at Bama now they wanted them from the start.


always trust message board posters who speak for their team.
Posted by ThaKaptin
The Sultan of Swag
Member since Nov 2010
21741 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 6:25 pm to
This is pitiful. Next thing you know you dumb fricks are gonna be arguing over the meaning of the word "is" like Bill fricking Clinton. Only difference is at least he got laid in the Oval Office.

It's over. Deal with it. Nobody besides T Boone Pickens and some retarded Pokes from Oklahoma give 2 shits in a piss pot about it at this point, and they arent in the SEC so there is no need to clutter up the SEC Rant with this BS.

Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 12/7/11 at 6:33 pm to
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So there is no way that Okie State could beat Bama.


With four weeks to prepare for a national semi final I will say there is no way Okie State could beat Bama. In a meaningless bowl game they could possibly if we came out flat ala Utah 2008.
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