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Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25876 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 4:04 pm to
Anybody who claims Aaron Murray was anything but a stud is an idiot. Way better than Greene, who I love. Give Murray the UGA D Greene had and look out.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3030 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 4:07 pm to
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume your posts in this thread are intended as low grade trolling and not real analysis. If not, then I'm happy to inform that your restricted viewpoint of Murray has no value in assessing his college career. FYI, he was a very, very good college quarterback.

I bet you get some funny looks when you tell people that Greyson Lambert was one of the all time greats of the college game. I believe he set an NCAA record for most consecutive completions, as he was unstoppable in 100% of his games against South Carolina. Unfortunately, it wasn't representative of his career, but I'm sure you haven't noticed that minor detail.
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 4:08 pm to
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You do know those weren't the only games he played in his career right? Why have you decided that those are the only games that matter in his time at Georgia?




WTF else would I base it on? And if you go back in this thread I state my opinion was based on games I had actually watched.

I doubt you are interested, but I really only watch a couple of Georgia games a year.

The South Carolina game obviously. If Tech is any good in a given year I like to watch you guys play them (or a better way to put it, is watch Tech play you).

Otherwise unless you are playing a game that impacts us in some way (and we've been out of the division race for at least three years now), I just never watch your games.

Not sure but I may not have even watched a Georgia/Florida game since Tebow graduated.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25876 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 4:14 pm to
Murray set basically every SEC passing record. You would have to be living under a rock to think he sucked while also being a football fan.
This post was edited on 7/8/17 at 4:15 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32860 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 4:20 pm to
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Not this crap again. For the third time, Go back and look at how Greene played in 2001 and 2002 vs sc.



I have a better idea.

Fill me in.

Give me a box score, passing stats, key mistakes Greene made.

I remember him playing very well (for what seemed like forever) against us.

Make yourself useful. I demand a more informative brand of troll.


Learn what trolling is before posting on a message board. You are the one that has posted the same nonsense 3x in the last week, not me. If you don't remember any details or basic stats of the games I speak of, why speak of the games as if you know what happened in them?
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 4:41 pm to
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He had a play-action fake, I want to say it was against Vanderbilt, that was the most beautiful fake I've ever seen. He faked the entire crowd and all the cameras out and threw a touchdown pass. No one knew he had the ball until he reared back to throw it. The receiver was wide open.


Back when QBs actually had to learn how to go through progressions
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44838 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 5:02 pm to
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I tend to forget though, it's not real football unless you pass out of the pocket and have a lead blocker. And I formation. Lots of I formation.


It's still the most unstoppable offense when the right pieces are in place to run it.
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
7807 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 5:15 pm to
We were so good at the end of 2012, one of Richts best teams by the time they put together. Alabama was just better that year.
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 5:33 pm to
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Learn what trolling is before posting on a message board. You are the one that has posted the same nonsense 3x in the last week, not me. If you don't remember any details or basic stats of the games I speak of, why speak of the games as if you know what happened in them?


And for the same number of times, you've provided not detail one.

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If you don't remember any details or basic stats of the games I speak of, why speak of the games as if you know what happened in them?


That's your petard, and you hoisted yourself. Assuming irony isn't lost on you.

Here, I'll help you. Above in this thread is a link to a stats site with game by game stats for Greene, Murray, and.. DJ Shockley.

Doesn't tell the whole story of course. Murray had a real knack for making his mistakes count. Shockley played a stinker game against South Carolina and still won. Only youtube clip I could find was him hurdling our players into the end zone.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32860 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 5:42 pm to
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And for the same number of times, you've provided not detail one.


I provided specific games and specifically told you he didn't play well, nor did our offense. Now that you looked the performances up, it would make sense for you to admit you were wrong.
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 5:43 pm to
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It's still the most unstoppable offense when the right pieces are in place to run it.




Why exactly do you think that though? I find this point interesting.

Look there a couple of offenses that get called "spreads." The Air Raid (and a number of NFL teams do this a lot now), and the various ones with a qb who will run we all know.

Why is a team with a pocket qb better if you have all the right pieces? What does it do better?

The pass/run option if you have a qb who is a definite part of the running game means defenses can't use double coverage like they can with a pro set.

The fact that the defense doesn't have a numbers advantage if the qb is a running threat basically means you get easier throws in a spread offense. So much so that a guy who got roundly mocked by a lot of people as a pro qb was a record setting passer in college (and you know the one).

What feature of a dropback passing offense makes it harder to stop? I mean what exactly does it do better?

Various permutations of the spread have all the power you could want.

Only thing I can think of is that most spread offenses (except the pistol) have almost no capacity to run play action, like you can in the offenses you are speaking of.

If you like this kind of stuff, Lou Holtz would occasionally run a full T backfield at South Carolina. That was a lot of fun to watch. Ball fakes and misdirection out of the yin yang.
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
10987 posts
Posted on 7/8/17 at 8:20 pm to
Did you know Greene grew up with Pollack (motor that won't quit) and they were roommates?
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44838 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 10:45 am to
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Why exactly do you think that though? I find this point interesting


IMO, because it's the one offensive style that has everything. Short passing, deep passing, screens, power running (something those Oregon offenses never had), wide running, etc...

2008 Oklahoma and 2013 FSU are really good examples of this. Bradford and Winston were such incredible college QBs who could read defenses, and those offenses were just ridiculous.

Chip Kelly's Oregon offenses were awesome as well, but when someone really stepped up and got physical with them (Stanford), they had no answers. 2013 Florida State was explosive and physical. If you took away the run, Winston could throw for 400 yards from the pocket.
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