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re: Danielson says McElroy cost Bama 24 pts

Posted on 11/10/09 at 5:39 pm to
Posted by Louie T
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 5:39 pm to
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the point of the thread is ONLY about Bama's offense. not LSU. Bama's offense seems great other than the QB to me. I was looking for evidence of other major areas of weakness outside OF the QB position.

if you had a better qb of course you would be better

if anyone else had better players they would be better

the hell is the point of this thread?
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 5:39 pm to
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Do you kinda get where I'm coming from?


yeah, but the point of the thread isn't about what you're talking about here. i was axin y'all about where our weaknesses were on offense if it's NOT mcelroy really.

my title is just to attract people to the thread.
Posted by m2pro
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 5:40 pm to
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Louie T


read my edit note on the OP
Posted by Louie T
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 5:42 pm to
you started the thread so people can agree with you? amazing
Posted by tigerbait2010
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Member since May 2006
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 5:43 pm to
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We don't have that this year either genius,,, but the bad news for you guys is that we will next year. Gmac is just a redshirt junior.


Let's see, shall we? there's no comma before "genius", and you used commas for your ellipsis. What an honor it is to be in the presence of a true genius!


GFY
This post was edited on 11/10/09 at 5:45 pm
Posted by m2pro
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 5:44 pm to
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you started the thread so people can agree with you? amazing



no, you smart arse... i didn't care if people agreed OR disagreed with me... i was seeing if anyone felt differently, and if so, then why. you know, it's what you do with a forum. you have a general feeling about something, you share it and hope to get insight from at least SOME intelligent people.
This post was edited on 11/10/09 at 5:46 pm
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 5:47 pm to
certainly didn't gather that from your original post...

McElroy, and along those same lines, explosiveness in the passing game have been the two areas of hope (you'd call them concern)...

The hitch that went for 70 yards to Jones... Bama needs more of that. It's so much easier when you're not having to grind out 20 play drives b/c you lack offensive explosiveness.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 5:49 pm to
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The hitch that went for 70 yards to Jones... Bama needs more of that. It's so much easier when you're not having to grind out 20 play drives b/c you lack offensive explosiveness.


that was Bama capitalizing on an LSU defensive blip. you can't expect that the defensive play calling will give you -any- of those per game. can only hope your offense sees it and strikes before the D can call a timeout. NO one covered jones on that play.

what we need is McElroy to get accurate again on the longer passes... and we DEFINITELY need our WR's to stop dropping easy passes.
Posted by Teague
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 5:52 pm to
McElroy will be fine. He had one or two bad games, but overall has been good. He threw the ball very well downfield earlier in the year but started playing it too safe later. He threw some downfield against LSU, but missed. I'm not at all concerned about his accuracy. He'll be fine if he continues to stretch the field and the Oline give him time to do it.
Posted by lowspark12
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 5:54 pm to
what we need is McElroy to get accurate again on the longer passes... and we DEFINITELY need our WR's to stop dropping easy passes.

agreed... I thought he'd be more accurate deep. Give JPW credit... the guy was good deep ball passer. That's definitely been missed this season.

To my post, it's not so much how the 70 yards happened... it's the fact that it needs to happen more. BTW, UF has the same problem... a lack of explosiveness on the passing game. Both teams are having to grind out drives instead of get easy scores... that opens up opportunities for mistakes, penalties, etc...
Posted by m2pro
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 5:54 pm to
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McElroy will be fine. He had one or two bad games, but overall has been good. He threw the ball very well downfield earlier in the year but started playing it too safe later. He threw some downfield against LSU, but missed. I'm not at all concerned about his accuracy. He'll be fine if he continues to stretch the field and the Oline give him time to do it.


he will be fine? one or TWO bad games? you're not concerned about his accuracy?? we gotta play UF now in the SECCG, and if he's not accurate, we WILL be turning the ball over. you can't just RUN and beat a UF team. you will HAVE to pass well enough.

the oline has really never seemed to be an issue. i feel like he's had ample time to pass all season long.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 5:56 pm to
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Give JPW credit... the guy was good deep ball passer.


mmmkay... maybe there's another JPW somewhere from some other school. i NEVER felt like we'd land a bomb on anyone with him. only time i've EVER felt confidence about this was with Croyle... and i really never felt like the receiver would make it happen then.

actually, i felt confident in McElroy earlier in teh season about the long ball... but i haven't since mid-season until now.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 6:01 pm to
Wilson was pretty good vertical.... where he struggled was making reads and checking down... with the play-action stuff and deep stuff, I thought he was pretty dang good. Remember the deep one to Jones in Athens? Granted, you've seen more of him than me...

A lot of it is the WRs... Jones has been banged up and there really hasn't been anyone else to step up on the opposite side.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33963 posts
Posted on 11/10/09 at 6:24 pm to
I actually agree. McElroy missed some wide open passes. I don't know about 24 points, but he didn't play as well as he could have. If he had hit some of those open passes, Bama would have won by more.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33963 posts
Posted on 11/10/09 at 6:27 pm to
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He threw some downfield against LSU, but missed. I'm not at all concerned about his accuracy.


Really? I mean we're almost through the year and he is badly missing wide open deep passes.

McElroy is not good. It is a testament to the rest of the team that Bama is where they are.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 6:29 pm to
Yeah, if your QB didn't suck you'd probably be a better team. If Florida had LSU's WRs they'd probably be unstoppable. If LSU's DL could generate a pass rush....etc, etc, etc
This post was edited on 11/10/09 at 6:29 pm
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28656 posts
Posted on 11/10/09 at 6:29 pm to
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McElroy is not good. It is a testament to the rest of the team that Bama is where they are.



at the beginning of the season, i would have told you i thought he was one of the best QB's we've had in a long, long time (regardless of who we'd played up to that point).. and i gave him a couple of the games like the Kentucky game, and the Ole Miss game and even the USC game... but i got tired of giving him outs. he's just not as good as i had hoped he'd turn out. but he has shown an ability to adapt some... he's kept us winning. he's only a half step down from JPW's game management skills... and overall, a small part of me still believes he can light a team up in the air.

still got a few more shots at it. we'll see.
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 11/10/09 at 6:32 pm to
Wow a freshman QB not being a world beater? Who'd have thought. A new starting QB typically costs a team 1-2 losses that season, Bama has been very fortunate to have the defense it has otherwise there were a couple of close games it would have lost.
Posted by NBamaAlum
Soul Patrolville
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 6:49 pm to
Hanks and Maze stepping up will have a large impact. The one ball in the LSU game that gave me fits was not the missed throw to Julio in the endzone nor the overthrown ball to Smelley. It was the crossing route to Maze that McElroy threw two steps in front of him. That play could have been for big yardage, and it wasn't a difficult throw. The pylon throw to Julio and flea flicker to Smelley I get. Those were throws on the run. The simple crossing route I don't.
Posted by Ron Mexico
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 6:55 pm to
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and if he weren't such an "average" QB, and instead was an elite QB, how would that affect us on the scoreboard?




but hes not

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