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re: Croom owned Bama. Why didn't he succeed more at MSU?

Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:06 am to
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32345 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:06 am to
Yeah, Cdawg. It would be hard to out suck the Shira years in late 60s.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
5667 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:13 am to
There was a 3-2 game. I get SEC defense, but that's crazy. Why hasn't he been hired as a HC after State?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:14 am to
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I get SEC defense, but that's crazy


That game did have 2 pretty good defenses, but it also has 2 totally incompetent cluster fvck offenses.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95904 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:14 am to
quote:

I guess you could say 2-3 is owning Alabama. That is far better than most manage....
We were 4-1 in that time frame. Yall werent good
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15715 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:36 am to
quote:

We were 4-1 in that time frame. Yall werent good


Oh I know, I'm just playing along with the OP's troll.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26991 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:21 am to
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Croom owned Shula.


fixed.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15715 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:27 pm to
You're really going to post this when Croom's Mississippi State is one of the few SEC teams Shula actually had a winning record against?

Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
9436 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:02 pm to
Typical drive under Croom:
- get a delay of game
- run up the middle for 2 yards. 2-13
- call a timeout
- get a delay of game out of the time out
- run a play action pass. Incomplete.
- 3-18, run a draw for three yards
- punt on 4th and 15
- rinse and repeat
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

After the 3-2 Auburn game, he said something to the effect of "our defense just didn't make enough plays."




Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10675 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:13 pm to
He wasn't experienced at the college level and was arrogant. He also bought in to all of the rhetoric about how bad the MSU team was that he inherited and how it would be a minor miracle to ever win there. He finally realized how important recruiting was in the end and left a very good class in place for Mullen but it was too little too late. I actually felt bad for the guy watching his last eggbowl. That was brutal.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14123 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:26 pm to
He was a good dude but didn't have the energy or the offensive know how to get it done, and never would have. He did recruit some very good players on defense and they were very physical. Those guys punished bama players in that '07 game.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28638 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:30 pm to
My guess is that he's too moral of a guy and not willing to break as many rules as the next guy.

It's like good men in politics... they -never- win.
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

Typical drive under Croom:
- get a delay of game
- run up the middle for 2 yards. 2-13
- call a timeout
- get a delay of game out of the time out
- run a play action pass. Incomplete.
- 3-18, run a draw for three yards
- punt on 4th and 15
- rinse and repeat


Christ
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

He was 2-3 against Alabama. I wouldn't call that "owning."

Let's put it in perspective. Like Freeze, if he'd been the Ole Miss coach instead, he would own 20% of ALL the total wins that his team has against Alabama, so.....
Posted by BhamDawg
A Brewery
Member since Sep 2009
441 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:50 pm to
The battery is in golf cart died.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 2:50 pm
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18137 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:52 pm to
The defense that year was stout, and had an abnormally high number of pick 6s and fumble returns for TDs.

We lost a game late in the year - I think Arkansas, and he blamed the defense for not scoring a touchdown.

In the bowl game against Central Florida, Wesley Carroll ignored the calls from the sideline to lead us to a winning drive and was put in the doghouse and ended up transferring to Florida International after leading an SEC team to an 8-5 record as a true freshman.

Posted by MaroonandWhite11
Member since Oct 2010
336 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 7:11 pm to
First of all, hiring Croom was the equivalent of self imposing sanctions on ourselves. Seriously. Damn you Larry Templeton, you cheap SOB!
Not to mention Templeton sold the rights to our "football" interlocking MSU logo to Nike and then proceeded to let Croom have his choice of uniforms and design.
And what does Croom choose? A very similar look to Bama's uniforms. But I digress.

Sure, Croom was a good man, all about character, doing things the right way and cleaning up the program..yadda yadda yadda.
But the most obvious thing about him was he had NO business coaching D1 football and in the SEC of all conferences.

All that first black head coach in the SEC nonsense is just that..nonsense.
Coaching in this league is about one thing..WINNING.
Thank God we hired Greg Byrne and he ended the nightmare that was the Croom era.

But as for the OP's question...No, Croom owned no one. Ellis Johnson's defense was responsible for the two wins over bama and the 8 wins in 2007.


Posted by Pinche Cabron
TN
Member since Nov 2015
3639 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

My guess is that he's too moral of a guy and not willing to break as many rules as the next guy.

It's like good men in politics... they -never- win.



Son of a Preacherman (his dad was my study hall teacher in 7th grade)
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