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re: Cowherd right

Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:30 pm to
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cowherd is seldom right. He says whatever he thinks he'd need to in order to get a reaction. So no, Cowherd isn't right.


This. He also claimed to have some inside knowledge of a big hire at USC. Enter Chad Helton. Nice work Colin.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:34 pm to
Remember when Cowherd said Saban wasn't even the best coach in his state and would be run out of town by Gus Malzahn?

Good times.
Posted by Pbhog
Pine bluff, Arkansas
Member since Oct 2015
3460 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:38 pm to
Cowherd>finebaum tho at least admit that
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:38 pm to
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Cowherd>finebaum tho at least admit that


In terms of trolling?

This post was edited on 11/30/15 at 12:39 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111515 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:39 pm to
Cowherd on USC. Big name coming. Will be paid twice what Carroll got.

Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23118 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:40 pm to
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But Ohio State didn't play 3 really good teams and 9 bad teams. They have played 1 really good team (10+ wins) (who they lost to), 1 pretty good team (8-9 wins, Power 5) and 10 average to bad teams. Alabama has played 4-5 pretty good teams (8-9 wins) and 7-8 average to bad teams. This isn't an argument. Ohio State's schedule is clearly the worst of all the playoff possibles


I never said OSU played a harder schedule. In fact, I said it wasn't as difficult as Bama's in my last post(which you left out)

I said choosing 8 win teams, or bowl teams, or even top 25 teams is arbitrary. One team could play 4 or 5 10 win teams and the rest that are bad and another could play a lot of good/not great teams
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30875 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

This is about as arbitrary as you can get on your cutoff.


Seems pretty standard to me.

quote:

The way OSU played last weekend, sure they could beat anyone.


Now THAT is arbitrary. I would say that the Alabama defense from the LSU and UGA games played well enough to monkey stomp anyone. Not sure how that is relevant.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42524 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:41 pm to
Bama lost early and was able to get back into better position. Ohio St lost at wrong time and will not win conference.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

I said choosing 8 win teams, or bowl teams, or even top 25 teams is arbitrary. One team could play 4 or 5 10 win teams and the rest that are bad and another could play a lot of good/not great teams


I agree and that is why I advocate looking at all of the computer models to try and weed all of that out.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23118 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

Seems pretty standard to me.


8 wins as a cutoff is standard to you? How did you feel in 2011 when Bama had played like 4 teams with winning records and okie state had played like 10 bowl teams
Posted by SmokeTide
Gulf Coast Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
5287 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:47 pm to
I agree our schedule is not what it should be, 7 teams were Top 25 in preseason. We play who is on the schedule and beat most of them. I recalled Cowherd saying that the Sec was a top heavy league in the past. But now the Big 10 and Big 12 are top heavy and he praises them.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

How did you feel in 2011


Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23118 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:48 pm to
OSU may beat Bama this year, but you can't use a resume to back it up. Cowherd can say this since there is very little chance this matchup happens
Posted by GregAl
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
3659 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Cowherd right


I'm not sure I've ever heard that phrase uttered before.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

How did you feel in 2011 when Bama had played like 4 teams with winning records and okie state had played like 10 bowl teams


Funny you say that, because I agree with you.

If the fight was between Michigan State, Oklahoma and Alabama for 1 spot I'd feel pretty nervous because of the fact that we don't have a real "big" victory over a Top 10 type team. Our resume is very, very similar to that 2011 Oklahoma State team (though our loss is to a team that will play in the Sugar Bowl and not to a 6-6 team).
Posted by penman
Member since Jul 2009
1317 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 1:00 pm to
He would also be correct if he said Bama will be in the CFP and Ohio State will not.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

He would also be correct if he said Bama will be in the CFP and Ohio State will not.


Not likely but a Florida or UNC win Saturday and OSU is in, count on it. Not saying it's right but it would happen.
Posted by penman
Member since Jul 2009
1317 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 1:07 pm to
Good point.
UF will not win, but UNC has a chance.
Posted by Gritshack
Member since Oct 2015
20 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

I said choosing 8 win teams, or bowl teams, or even top 25 teams is arbitrary. One team could play 4 or 5 10 win teams and the rest that are bad and another could play a lot of good/not great team


fine...cut it arbitrarily in a way that makes Ohio State look better.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23118 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 1:22 pm to
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quote:I said choosing 8 win teams, or bowl teams, or even top 25 teams is arbitrary. One team could play 4 or 5 10 win teams and the rest that are bad and another could play a lot of good/not great team fine...cut it arbitrarily in a way that makes Ohio State look better


Good lord you people. I said OSU's schedule wasn't as good as Bama's in my first and second post

I am saying using bowl teams, or 8 win teams, or 10 win teams or top 25 wins is arbitrary

Schedule A: All 13 teams on the schedule are 8-4
Schedule B: 4 teams are 10-2, 6 teams are 7-5 and 2 teams are 3-9

Which schedule is better? One has way higher ranked wins while the other has more "good" wins
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