re: Corso's saying UT and Oklahoma leaving Big 12 in next 5 years most likely 4 SEC

LSU and Ole Miss want the SEC offices out of Birmingham
I understand where you are coming from but I think you are missing the power behind who wants Texas and Oklahoma in the SEC
I believe it to be ESPN. I believe ESPN has the power to get what they want in college football because truthfully I believe they have been the ones who have been pushing this conference realignment since Va Tech went to the ACC in the early 2000's

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Ole Miss want the SEC offices out of Birmingham

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OM is far more concerned with keeping the NCAA out of Oxford at this point, they are a bit preoccupied.

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Your facts are incorrect, the PAC move was first discussed when the B1G wanted to add Penn State and Notre Dame back in the late 1980's.

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Good grief, Kentucky Mustangs, I'm talking about recently. And at that time it was Texas to the Pac, A&M to the SEC.

In fact, there was an A&M regent who was later convicted of a crime by using an A&M airplane to go to Baton Rouge for his son's graduation (Ross Margraves).

During that trial it was exposed that Aggy was the first one who wanted to blow up the Southwest Conference. However, it was Arkansas who pulled the trigger. Yet, somehow, Texas got blamed.

I can't wait until people start accusing DeLoss Dodds of being on the grassy knoll in Dallas when Kennedy was killed.

From the season before last:
Eyes on Texas: Ticket sales continue creeping in the wrong direction
You ought to wait a few years before declaring the horns out of their abyss.
One outlier season does not a trend make.

You're avoiding the question.

Do you expect A&M's attendance to increase, hold steady, or decline?

By the way, Texas fans have NEVER declared themselves as the best in the world. So where's the hypocrisy on people bailing on a shitty team and coach? (Do you get my drift?)

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LSU and Ole Miss want the SEC offices out of Birmingham

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They may talk that way, but if it ever moved it would be east to Nashville or Atlanta. Rebs and Tigers may blow off steam now and again in public but I do not believe any of it. when it comes down to it the SEC knows standing together is the best was to survive. Big East and Big Twelve will be case studies in business schools in a decade or two on how to not break up the band by shooing cracks in the armor.

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I understand where you are coming from but I think you are missing the power behind who wants Texas and Oklahoma in the SEC

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You may not understand where I am coming from, I was around back in the days when the skeletons were being put in the closet originally. ESPN has power but it is not absolute. Granted they are writing the media checks but that only accounts for about 1/3 of the pie. On site is another 1/3 but the final 1/3 is the good old boys who write the checks. Unless ESPN picks up that 1/3 they are never going to have the control you think they have.

Sure ESPN and FOX have the media space monopolized but you need to look at the who picture when it comes to the dollars. As for conference realignment, it has been going on all the time and moves with the speed of mud. The more folks think things change, the more they stay the same with plans taking decades to happen. Media just makes you think it happens quickly because they do not want it out till AFTER the deal is done.

Look when the ACC added schools, no info beforehand and suddenly Syracuse and Pittsburgh are in. Do you honestly believe it happened just that fast?

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So tell your administration to stop trying to force it

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Speaking of administrations, you sound like the Obama administration trying to project their own misdeeds on the Trump camp. It's called projection, I suppose?

Give me one link to a Texas administrator trying to force the series to continue.

I can give you several links on two A&M graduates in the state legislature who filed bills to force the series to continue.

Is it fish camp that messes with your brain

That cult in College Station has gotten even more delusional in the recent years. It may be that their 100 year decision is not working out and the outcome has been other SEC schools moving in on Texas and that the alienation of their own state

I am surprised I haven't seen Old Sarge rising in here on his riding lawnmower throwing out his unbelievable amount of Aggy intelligence onto this topic

What's with your alter?
Why not post using your real username?

So Arkansas joining the Southwest Conference in 1915 was Texas' fault, at least partially? My God, man.

I want to post this for emphasis. This occurred in Aug. 1993. Aggy was planning to blow up the Southwest Conference (Arkansas announced its leaving in 1990 but the conference remained intact, nonetheless).

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At trial, the appellant abandoned his argument that he was conducting state business by attending the ceremony as an official invitee of L.S.U. He instead claimed that he went to conduct official state business by meeting with Dr. Davis to discuss the possibility of Texas A & M's leaving the Southwest Conference (S.W.C.) and joining the Southeastern Conference (S.E.C.), and the financial status of the S.E.C. The appellant testified that he had six telephone conversations with Dr. Davis about these matters after he was invited to the ceremony and before he arrived.

Dr. Davis, however, recalled none of these conversations. The appellant argued that his discussion with Dr. Davis was of the utmost importance to the state, and his witnesses attested to the importance of the issues surrounding the breakup of the S.W.C. and to the need for discretion about Texas A & M's possible move from the S.W.C. to the S.E.C. None of these witnesses, however, testified that the appellant needed to fly with his wife to have a face-to-face meeting with Dr. Davis about the subject, or that they thought that the appellant had flown with the intent to conduct state business rather than to see his son graduate. The State argued to the jury that the appellant did not go to L.S.U. to have these discussions but went to watch his son graduate.

Under this theory, the discussions with Dr. Davis were merely afterthoughts to the trip's actual purpose or were a pretext meant to disguise his true intent. To support its theory, the State showed that in his explanatory memo to Dr. Mobley, the appellant claimed that he had met with Dr. Davis in his office for an hour and a half.

Dr. Davis testified that they did meet and informally discussed these matters, but the meeting was only for thirty to forty-five minutes, although they did have lunch afterward.

Dr. Davis said that he had not scheduled an appointment to meet with the appellant, and that he did not and could not have had official discussions with the appellant, for doing so would have breached protocol.

He stated that he wanted to take advantage of the appellant's trip to see his son graduate to have a friendly, informal conversation with him about the level of interest from Texas A & M in joining the S.E.C., and that the meeting would not have taken place had the appellant's son not been graduating that day.

The jury could have found that this informal conversation was not the motivating reason for the appellant's trip. In addition to the discrepancies surrounding the circumstances of the meeting, the jury heard evidence that the appellant exaggerated the importance of its substance.

The State showed that the invitation to join the S.E.C. had been formally extended to Texas A & M a few years before the appellant's trip.

And the State showed that the appellant was not the person at Texas A & M who would have negotiated the conference alignment; ?it would have been the job of the school president and the athletic director.

The appellant did not seek out any other face-to-face meetings with any presidents of the other schools that made up the S.E.C. When the S.W.C. did break up, and Texas A & M joined the Big Eight Conference rather than the S.E.C., the appellant did not meet with any president or chancellor of any of the Big Eight's schools.

The State contended that the highly unusual nature of the appellant's discussion with Dr. Davis showed that he was not conducting official state business during the meeting. There was also evidence that the appellant's claim that he needed to get financial information about the S.E.C. was exaggerated to excuse his personal trip.

The State showed that the Texas A & M Athletic Director already had this information and could have updated it anytime, if needed, with a phone call. The appellant showed that, as Chairman of the Board's Athletic Committee and “point-man” on the S.W.C. breakup, he was vested with special oversight of the Texas A & M Athletic Department, and that he discussed the S.W.C. breakup with Dr. Mobley after he returned.

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Surprise, surprise: Aggy lied and got caught