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re: Corso's saying UT and Oklahoma leaving Big 12 in next 5 years most likely 4 SEC

Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:44 pm to
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50701 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:44 pm to
20 years? Why go back so far? Oh its because tu is dog shite across the board in all 3 big 3.
Posted by A LeBlanc
St. Landry Parish
Member since Apr 2017
1191 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:47 pm to
Do you not understand that UT right now has more power than before A&M left

For this simple fact that UT is pretty much in the driver's seat of controlling all future expansion
They have the pick in what of the four conferences they want to go to

They tip the balance of college football because wherever they go that conference instantly becomes the most powerful conference in the country
Right now the SEC has the most power in college football but a Texas in either of the other three conferences will put them over the SEC
This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 9:50 pm
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:48 pm to
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If Texas had not raised their skirts to the PAC twice and gotten blackballed by Stanford it would have been Texas long ago but that boat has sailed and will not return to the dock.

Blackballed by Stanford? I thought that was Baylor that Berkeley and Stanford opposed so vigorously. Do you have any proof of this? Texas and Stanford have played several times over the years in football, and especially baseball.

By the way, Texas turned down the Pac-10, not the other way around. That is revisionist history.

Facts:

The Pac-10 expansion attempt to include Texas was in June 2010.

The Big 12 voted to allow schools to create their own network about that time, which sweetened the pot for Texas to stay in the Big 12.

The contract with ESPN and the Longhorn Network was not signed until Dec. 2010.

The University of Texas was still considering which network to partner with as late as Oct. 2010.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50701 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

For this simple fact that UT is pretty much in the driver's seat of controlling all future expansion
They have the pick in what of the four conferences they want go to



There is not pick. It goes SEC #1 then everyone else. At this point, the SEC is a no go. So you'll have to settle for staying in the shitty Big 12 and like it. Be prepared to make a ton of concessions (no mo network) when it finally implodes and OU leaves your arse in the dust.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

Because UT carries more of the state and market there is more demand so ESPN can get the local cable and satellite companies to pay higher fees

Even through the SEC network is in Texas there is not the amount of demand for it by people who purchase these cable and satellite packages
If UT was in the SEC you could control the entire state


Up until this point you just seemed like you were trolling the former SWC members, now you have revealed the fact that it is just pure ignorance.

These deals are done nationally and Texas brings zero extra money to the table, any expansion will be into a state where there is no SEC school.

Ok State and WV bring more to the table than TX in terms of revenue, VA and NC both bring far more, sorry but thems the facts.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50701 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

Up until this point you just seemed like you were trolling the former SWC members, now you have revealed the fact that it is just pure ignorance.

These deals are done nationally and Texas brings zero extra money to the table, any expansion will be into a state where there is no SEC school.

Ok State and WV bring more to the table than TX in terms of revenue, VA and NC both bring far more, sorry but thems the facts.


Damn

Homie just got told by Ms St Dawg.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:51 pm to
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Higher Ratings

Purely based on numbers of viewers, that is not true.

Do the math, here's the link from last year:

LINK

By the way, you're hemorrhaging season tickets. We'll see how long people are willing to pay high-dollar to get their poop pushed in. Kind of weird for the world's most loyal fanbase, no?

Your SEC bump is quickly disappearing. You still have a bit more money to waste, though.
Posted by A LeBlanc
St. Landry Parish
Member since Apr 2017
1191 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:52 pm to
Do you not understand the SEC has a contract with CBS and ESPN for other broadcast
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

These deals are done nationally and Texas brings zero extra money to the table, any expansion will be into a state where there is no SEC school. Ok State and WV bring more to the table than TX in terms of revenue, VA and NC both bring far more, sorry but thems the facts.

So you agree that the University of Houston or Texas Tech would've had the same effect, money-wise, as adding Texas A&M. Your brethren protested this while upvoting this same statement.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:54 pm to
Lee Corso - conference re-alignment insider...
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50701 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:54 pm to
I can't see your bowl ratings on there for some reason.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54792 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:54 pm to
quote:

For Kentucky

Would you mind Texas joining the ACC


Would probably work except the logistics would be crazy. Texas mentality would fit them better but not sure how Texas will react to not being the top dog, they call it the All Carolina Conference for a reason.

quote:

Problem is for this group of four by denying UT they are actually helping our their rival universities if Texas decides to join the ACC


You just are not getting the dynamics of the SEC. Of the P5's the B1G and SEC are most "groupthink" and to not upset this dynamic you need damn near 100% agreement but the SEC separates from the B1G in that they want a real equality of peers when they actually get in the room to vote on issues. While you may just be hearing me say this on how they would vote on Texas you are missing that it applies to issues across the board.

When Texas left the SIAA and took TAMU they wanted control and wanted Ole Miss and LSU to go with them but Ole Miss and LSU did not want that dynamic. It is amazing how 100 years later the same thinking still is in the decision rooms today on the conference really moving as a single entity. Not sure the leadership of texas will ever fully understand or appreciate this.

In the ACC they are full of egos so Texas will feel more at home, the issue is the bridge the ACC would have to build between the two. I think Line Beards are the closest ACC school to Austin, and rumor in the CAF it was Texas that blackballed their move to the B12 in 2010. Jurich may be appeased by money but some of his big donors may not be so easily swayed.

BTW, you in Austin and are you going to Willie in a few weeks?
Posted by A LeBlanc
St. Landry Parish
Member since Apr 2017
1191 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:55 pm to
Just proves pretty much my conclusion of the educational system in Mississippi

People there can't not figure out the truth for themselves

They read an article used to manipulate and believe it to be true
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50701 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:55 pm to
quote:

By the way, you're hemorrhaging season tickets. We'll see how long people are willing to pay high-dollar to get their poop pushed in. Kind of weird for the world's most loyal fanbase, no?



We increased our capacity by 20k and still average a near sell out.

I saw tu tickets on groupon.

Keep trying.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72248 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:55 pm to
quote:

Definitely not Ole Miss or State. Not enough meaningful history.


Alabama has played Mississippi State more than any SEC foe. They're the two closest SEC programs to one another.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:56 pm to
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Damn

Homie just got told by Ms St Dawg.


It really is simple, if and when schools are added they will be ones that increase revenue for all current members.

Adding Texas would COST each SEC school millions, aint happening.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:56 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 9:57 pm
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37569 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:56 pm to
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I can't see your bowl ratings on there for some reason.




Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50701 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:58 pm to
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It really is simple, if and when schools are added they will be ones that increase revenue for all current members.

Adding Texas would COST each SEC school millions, aint happening.


Oh I agree, 100%.

Their pride won't let them accept the simple truth. It is down right funny at this point.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:59 pm to
quote:

So you agree that the University of Houston or Texas Tech would've had the same effect, money-wise, as adding Texas A&M. Your brethren protested this while upvoting this same statement.



Yes.
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