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re: **Consensus 2017 Post-Spring Preseason Poll

Posted on 5/2/17 at 5:45 pm to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73492 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 5:45 pm to
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Ranked in these in 2014 (6-7), 2015 (5-7), and 2016 (5-7).

They never learn



If there ever was an "All Texas, all the time" post and poster, this is it.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
11166 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 6:16 pm to
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Clemson, Penn State and USC rated too high.


Probably, but how many losses do they have on their schedule? About half of PSU's schedule should be blowouts. It's ridiculously easy.

USC has Stanford and Texas early, but the rest depends on how good are Colorado, Wash St, Utah, and UCLA.

Clemson will be favored in every game except for maybe FSU, but it's at home.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
49136 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 6:50 pm to
I'm okay with it. I think Florida and Tennessee might be too low...
Posted by AnActualFan
Work
Member since Mar 2010
927 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:57 pm to
I think they have LSU about right. Maybe 14-15 is more accurate, but 12 isn't crazy.

Edit to add: Texas will surprise people if they can get their RB's healthy. Orlando is a good DC, should keep them in most games. Interested to see their season play out. Not saying they are world beaters, but I don't think Strong left the cupboard completely bare.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 8:03 pm
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:12 pm to
They lost the kid that was a freshman last year??
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:40 am to
Updated this morning to include Stewart Mandel's rankings from Fox Sports.

Mississippi State is now on the board at #32!

Georgia jumps ahead of LSU. Tennessee falls out of the Top 25, down to #26.

Those were the major changes after adding in this poll.
Posted by MasterAbe1
Member since Oct 2016
5003 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:44 am to
Am I the only one who believes that South Carolina might take a big step forward this year?
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:49 am to
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Am I the only one who believes that South Carolina might take a big step forward this year?



I think they'll be a pain in the arse. Which is to say that their offense looks good but their defense still looks terrible. Teams that struggle to put up points (and that was more than a few last season though last season isn't necessarily predictive of this coming season) will have a hard time with them.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42506 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:08 am to
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Texas university clearly deserves to be ranked after going 5-7, 5-7, 5-7 the last three years and firing their coach and losing their qb.



I mean, Texas doesn't deserved to be ranked, but they don't lose their QB (was a Tr. Fr last year) and they fired a terrible coach only to hire a good one.

They shouldn't be ranked because they have proven absolutely nothing.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
14481 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:13 am to
Who is Florida's QB going to be and did we get any read on whoever it is from their spring game? I didn't really pay a whole lot of attention to spring ball.
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
6946 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:21 am to
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OL with little to no experience
What in the ever living frick are you talking about. We return THREE starters that have plenty of experience. Golson, Smith and James.

We are replacing two OL. Get a grip
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:23 am to
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I mean, Texas doesn't deserved to be ranked, but they don't lose their QB (was a Tr. Fr last year) and they fired a terrible coach only to hire a good one.

They shouldn't be ranked because they have proven absolutely nothing.


Oddly enough, according to one of the numbers guys who crunches this sort of thing professionally, the stats show that replacing a QB has little impact on a team's success. The variable that does? Replacing a kicker.

Returning starters also don't have the impact that most people think although there is a limit you have to reach. I don't remember the numbers exactly so these numbers are just put on for an example but say you have 6-7 returning starters and that's the magic number. You've then reached the max benefit of returning starters so a team that returns 11 or even 17 isn't any better off so long as you hit the minimum number.

Sounds crazy given the emphasis we all put on returning QBs and returning starters in general but that's what the data analysts say.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 11:25 am
Posted by WareagleKK
Milton, GA (ur welcome for Lawson)
Member since May 2012
2749 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:15 pm to
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Yes. Seems that many Auburners choose to believe that our OL with little to no experience at set/new position or unit cohesion will gel right off the bat as a whole.



We have a cupcake game 1 to get ready with. It isn't like we don't have talent at every spot to work with.

IMO we end up with some combo of:

Darius James
Wilson Bell
Austin Golson
Braden Smith
Prince Tega

Then we've got guys like Horton, Harrell, Prince Sammons, and Ashley that could develop throughout the year and maybe provide a few snaps should someone go down.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12511 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 4:37 pm to
LSU and UGA are to high until their current coaching staff proves other wise. The top 5 SEC teams look about right just not the order.
Posted by UnwashedVol
Johnson City
Member since Apr 2017
206 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:03 pm to
Jawja is NOT a top 12 team. That is hysterical
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 6:14 pm to
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USC has Stanford and Texas early, but the rest depends on how good are Colorado, Wash St, Utah, and UCLA.


I am not sold on Helton but Darnold. That offensive line is going to be awfully inexperienced. If I were a betting man, I believe UW wins it all. Their offense brings back everyone.

Outside of UW and USC, the Pac - 12 is tough to predict. It's a quarterback rich league this year with practically the entire league outside of Cal bringing back a kid with out at least two starts. With that in mind, I think 3 is a little high. With a gun to my head, I'd choose UW to win the league.
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:53 pm to
Okay with the top 5. After that it is a complete crapshoot.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:05 pm to
I'd bet pretty heavily on the UF UM game if its really UM - 7
Posted by TIGERSPIKE
Member since Oct 2016
1445 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:37 pm to
I think Clemson has earned the benefit of the doubt rating at this point. Six straight seasons with 11 or more wins and multiple victories over FSU, Auburn, Ohio State, Oklahoma and have beaten LSU and Bama during that span as well. They have beaten pretty much every team that has won or competed for a national championship in the last 6 years. They are top 4 until proven otherwise.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29180 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:41 pm to
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Texas university clearly deserves to be ranked after going 5-7, 5-7, 5-7 the last three years and firing their coach and losing their qb.




Buechele didn't tranfer though, and Texas is getting like 18 starters back in a shite conference. I could see why they're ranked
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