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Congress getting in on the basketball investigations

Posted on 9/28/17 at 7:55 pm
Posted by AUWDE
Member since Oct 2013
3187 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 7:55 pm
NCAA is fricked

"The federal government's investigation into sports companies and basketball coaches at numerous colleges across the nation is extremely troubling and puts into serious question the NCAA's ability to oversee its own institutions," the statement reads. "In addition to any criminal activities, these allegations raise concerns about the effects of these predatory schemes on your athletes and how hidden financial connections between advertisers and endorsers influence young consumers.


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Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11838 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 7:57 pm to
In the ESPN article the middle man who connected the guy that took a plea with the coaches and players also talked about all his clients that were football players in his suit store. Some football programs may need to be concerned about these players knowing this guy before the draft.

I think it may not end with just basketball
Posted by vengeanceofrain
depends
Member since Jun 2013
12465 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 7:59 pm to
KU launches an internal invesigation

and.here.we.go


there has never in the history of internall investigatons has there never not been shite there. this is how that conversation goes


ku ad: "we're good right"


self: ......

KU Ad: "right?"


self: .............

KU Ad: "frick"
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32254 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 7:59 pm to
Hot damn! It'll get fixed now, for sure.
Posted by doverstutts
Member since Jul 2017
1070 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:00 pm to
Just what this situation needs. the damned government!!!!... if there is an organization more inept and bureaucratic than the NCAA its the damned federal government....ain't this going in the shitter fast
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
10895 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:01 pm to
Of course they are. Just like when McCain was so worried about boxing. Anything to avoid doing their job while also giving the false appearance they're protecting Americans from ourselves.

Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42645 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:02 pm to
I think the frame that sports writers have put on this regarding the NCAA is wishful thinking. The NCAA doesn't have the power to control all of this. It's not a law enforcement body and as a regulatory body it's powers are extremely weak when it comes to anything proactive -- basically they have no proactive powers, only after the fact powers and even those are limited as hell (I mean they basically have to take what's handed to them and rely on people talking - they can't even subpoena).

As much as folks want to blame the NCAA, they don't want to give them the powers to actually police this on a scale that would have to happen and even if NCAA powers were expanded, they'd have no authority of the AAU circuit and the apparel makers that have corrupted basketball so much. If the Feds, congress, or anyone else want college basketball cleaned up to an acceptable level it starts by taking aim at AAU and the apparel makers and that's an area where the NCAA has zero authority.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 8:03 pm
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:05 pm to
At this point since everybody is dirty af, I vote we all get to keep all our dirty players eligible. Especially Mustapha Herron and Austin Wiley who took money to basically leave school instead of to come to school
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:07 pm to
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Hot damn! It'll get fixed now, for sure.


Absolutely. It's about time that Cong...wait, that was 'sarcasm', wasn't it? My momma warned me about sarcasm when I was just a youngster. Said it starts out with sarcasm, which leads to 'irony', which leads to unreconstructed Yankeeism. You almost got me there. Nice try, but I'm wise to you now.
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
25965 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:08 pm to
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vengeanceofrain
Louisville Fan


Misery loves company you sorry bastard!
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9711 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:11 pm to
He is a hog fan dipshit
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:12 pm to
Oh thank goodness. Congress is here to solve the problem! They are so good at getting things done.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18310 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:12 pm to
Is this an issue in European soccer?
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
25965 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:13 pm to
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He is a hog fan dipshit


I don't keep up with all of you, he has the wrong team by his name and I went with it, when you get a life you will not know who everyone's team is, dumbass.
Posted by joshua2571
Member since Nov 2015
8137 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:13 pm to
I don't know if anybody seen the Coach Cal 30 for 30. There was an AAU guy that was telling AAU players where to go college. If I remember correctly, that was when Cal was at Memphis. This isn't anything new. NCAA turned their cheek and now it's going to bite them in the arse.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:15 pm to
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As much as folks want to blame the NCAA, they don't want to give them the powers to actually police this on a scale that would have to happen and even if NCAA powers were expanded, they'd have no authority of the AAU circuit and the apparel makers that have corrupted basketball so much. If the Feds, congress, or anyone else want college basketball cleaned up to an acceptable level it starts by taking aim at AAU and the apparel makers and that's an area where the NCAA has zero authority.


All true, though they can take aim at the universities as beneficiaries. The universities are vital stepping stones for any player who wants to maintain a public profile pending the draft, after all, at least as long the one-and-done rule exists. In essence, they can blackball the recruits and players themselves. Less cooperation from the recruits makes it more difficult for AAU and the apparel makers since these players are both the linchpin and the raison d'etre of the system itself. At least in theory. In practice, they'll all just start being more careful in how they operate.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42645 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:17 pm to
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Absolutely. It's about time that Cong...wait, that was 'sarcasm', wasn't it? My momma warned me about sarcasm when I was just a youngster. Said it starts out with sarcasm, which leads to 'irony', which leads to unreconstructed Yankeeism. You almost got me there. Nice try, but I'm wise to you now.



Cormac McCarthy, James Agee, Harper Lee, Truman Capote, William Faulkner, Flannery O'Conner, Tennessee Williams, Eudora Welty, Mark Twain, and countless other Southern writers would strongly disagree with your momma about irony.

To be Southern is at its very core to be steeped in irony.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:20 pm to
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Cormac McCarthy, James Agee, Harper Lee, Truman Capote, William Faulkner, Flannery O'Conner, Tennessee Williams, Eudora Welty, Mark Twain, and countless other Southern writers would strongly disagree with your momma about irony.

To be Southern is at its very core to be steeped in irony.


My momma didn't read any of those. She loved Lewis Grizzard. I've never read him, so I don't know what his humor is like.

I did just re-read 'As I Lay Dying' a couple weeks back. It's easier than 'The Sound and the Fury' (if not by much) and still sounds impressive when hitting up girls at the cotillion.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9347 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:22 pm to
Well Congress is certainly the experts on corruption! Never stop learning is their motto.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42645 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:00 pm to
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My momma didn't read any of those. She loved Lewis Grizzard. I've never read him, so I don't know what his humor is like.

I did just re-read 'As I Lay Dying' a couple weeks back. It's easier than 'The Sound and the Fury' (if not by much) and still sounds impressive when hitting up girls at the cotillion.


"As I Lay Dying" is one of my favorite novels. I read it in high school on the recommendation of an English teacher who knew I liked Faulkner. (Yeah I know how nerdy is liking Faulkner that young - I mean adults fake read him ). I was so taken with how the story was told that I wrote "My mother is a fish" on the sides of my kick arse Chuck Taylors. "Sound and the Fury" is great but I'd also recommend "Absalom, Absalom!" as Quentin's struggle with what it is to be southern stands to this day as the perfect illustration of what southerners of conscience and intellect struggle with.

My step-dad loved Lewis Grizzard and had a ton of his comedy tapes and as a kid we'd listen to them on long trips. I found his humor hilarious as a child but today I find it chauvinistic (in the classical sense where the word refers to regional prejudice or overzealous nationalism - seriously everyone should google the word because it's so associated with 'male chauvinism' that the true meaning has been lost.)

That's not to say Grizzard is without merit. In columns and in his standup he had some wonderful insights. He's just problematic because in many ways he promoted some of the very things southerners need to shed in order to get on with our lives and improve the standing of so many things within our states.
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