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re: Congratulations to Butch Jones on earning another honor from the SEC

Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:32 am to
Posted by Quicksilver
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:32 am to
It even took Butch 2 years to get bowl eligible. Freeze was able to get it done in 1 with a much worse situation and no players drafted.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:34 am to
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with a much worse situation



fricking rebals are the most delusional fanbase in the history of sports
Posted by Quicksilver
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:35 am to
Houston Nutt's Ole Miss teams were so bad, they lost to Derek Dooley. Ole miss was 2-10 and had gotten blown out by Louisiana Tech and Joker Phillips-led Kentucky.
This post was edited on 5/2/16 at 10:37 am
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:36 am to
Dude, I'm not reading anything you type, ever again. You're delusional to the point of dangerous.


frick off
Posted by Quicksilver
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:38 am to
What a little bitch
Posted by atlgator
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:38 am to
You too V&S

do you think that Butch's problem on Gameday is that he'd rather be MCing the game to 15,000 fans like he does in the spring game? Or do you think it's just that he's a dipshit?

I'll hang up and listen
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:39 am to
didn't read, voted down
Posted by Quicksilver
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:42 am to
He's not completely shitty coach, but he's not a very good one. Very Zook-like.
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 11:03 am to
Actually, that's incorrect. Players he recruited at Cincy were drafted. It's only Doolovers who weren't.
Posted by GnashRebel
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 11:14 am to
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What a little bitch



It's the Tennessee narrative that keeps the warm at night after Butch fails. No team has ever been as bad off as Tennessee at the end of the Dooley era. shite, Vanderbilt has less talent during a good year.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 12:31 pm to
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It's the Tennessee narrative that keeps the warm at night after Butch fails.


What narrative is OM dealing with these days?

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No team has ever been as bad off as Tennessee at the end of the Dooley era.


We had 3 coaches in 5 years, it led to the worst period UT football has ever had. Objectively, we were in a very bad position in terms of talent and stability when CBJ arrived. It's funny you mentioned Vanderbilt. In 2012, the "peak" of our decline, We had the 107th ranked D while Vandy finished with the 19th ranked D. Yes, it was that bad. Pretty much right around where OM is historically
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 12:53 pm to
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I understand not having anyone drafted after just one season. Maybe even after two. But how do you not develop one guy, even a late rounder, after three years? Guys will be drafted next year, but it seems to reason that talent alone got them there. Not any actual development from the coaching staff.


It goes to show you how low the talent level had dropped under Dooley. Remember, not only did the talent level drop...UT was down to 65 scholarship players in 2010. Butch filled it in with players in the 2013 & 14 class. These are the players you are going to see getting drafted over the next two years.

Saban only had a 1 year drought (2008). Freeze only had a 1 year drought (2013)...but has never had a year where more than one player was drafted until 2016.



Posted by bbvdd
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 12:57 pm to
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Alvin Kamara
Can you really say this is his guy?

I mean he was at Bama until he was kicked off the team. I want to see him do well, but is he really BJs?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 12:58 pm to
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Can you really say this is his guy?



Is now.
Posted by Kraven Moorehed
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 1:28 pm to
Holy shite, Bama fans trying to claim Kamara after one redshirt season. They really will try to claim anything.
Posted by atlgator
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 1:40 pm to
Alabama fans claiming Kamara are about as valid as Tennessee fans still blaming Dooley after almost four years. And if you look at Tennessee recruiting rankings going back to 2010, it wasn't about a lack of talent. Tennessee never had a class below 25th in the country.

The problem at Tennessee has been a systemic lack of development from the Dooley years to now, three years into the Butch Jones regime.

Dooley was terrible at Tennessee, but one thing that Dooley never had happen was nobody get drafted onto an NFL team.

Don't give the lack of talent excuse. The recruiting rankings show Tennessee has had top 25 level talent the last 6 years. Something happens from the time these guys get to Knoxville to when they leave. They don't get developed into pro level prospects. That's partly on Dooley, but also partly on the man who has been in charge the last 3+ years, Lyle B. Jones.
Posted by JesusQuintana
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 1:42 pm to
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-La Tech -Eastern Kentucky -Western Kentucky -Middle Tennessee State -Akron -William and Mary -South Carolina State -Schwabisch Hall Unicors, Deutschland (Did not make that up LOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOL) -UT Sant Antonio -Cental Arkansas


You forgot to add Baylor......basketball
Posted by russellvillehog
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 1:59 pm to
I agree with everyone saying that butch should have developed atleast 1 player in 3 years. you can't keep blaming Dooley.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 2:05 pm to
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I agree with everyone saying that butch should have developed atleast 1 player in 3 years. you can't keep blaming Dooley.



Well, technically, he did, then problem was, the draftable seniors were either injured (Maggitt, could have gone last year, but came back for a senior year), or are facing multiple years in prison (AJ Johnson was a projected 2nd rounder before was accused of rape.)


Posted by Korin
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 2:28 pm to
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fricking rebals are the most delusional fanbase in the history of sports

Butch took over a 5-7 team. Freeze took over a 2-10 team.
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