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Comparing Results with Talent Level : SEC Programs
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:32 am
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:32 am
Using the 247 College Football Team Talent Composite and the USA Today FBS Rankings, from Best to Worst
Team - USAT Ranking - 247 Talent Ranking - Difference
1. Alabama (1, 1, 0)
2. Florida (24, 16, -8)
3. Kentucky (50, 35, -15)
4. Tennessee (31, 15, -16)
5. Texas A&M (32, 12, -20)
6. Vanderbilt (61, 41, -20)
7. LSU (25, 3, -22)
8. Auburn (29, 7, -22)
9. Arkansas (58, 26, -32)
10. Mississippi State (64, 28, -36)
11. South Carolina (63, 23, -40)
12. Missouri (80, 38, -42)
13. Georgia (51, 6, -45)
14. Ole Miss (65, 14, -51)
Team - USAT Ranking - 247 Talent Ranking - Difference
1. Alabama (1, 1, 0)
2. Florida (24, 16, -8)
3. Kentucky (50, 35, -15)
4. Tennessee (31, 15, -16)
5. Texas A&M (32, 12, -20)
6. Vanderbilt (61, 41, -20)
7. LSU (25, 3, -22)
8. Auburn (29, 7, -22)
9. Arkansas (58, 26, -32)
10. Mississippi State (64, 28, -36)
11. South Carolina (63, 23, -40)
12. Missouri (80, 38, -42)
13. Georgia (51, 6, -45)
14. Ole Miss (65, 14, -51)
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 7:33 am
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:35 am to Triple Daves
It just tells you that the talent level, star ranking is all bullshite
People get way to caught up in that
People get way to caught up in that
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:35 am to MeatPants
Don't be dumb
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:36 am to MeatPants
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It just tells you that the talent level, star ranking is all bullshite People get way to caught up in that
Except that the most talented team is also number 1
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:37 am to Triple Daves
There is no way in hell Georgia is the sixth-most talented team in the country. None. Zero.
Same for Auburn at 7 and LSU at 3
Same for Auburn at 7 and LSU at 3
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:42 am to Triple Daves
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13. Georgia (51, 6, -45)
Kirby SmartPosted on 11/29/16 at 7:43 am to silverstreak02
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There is no way in hell Georgia is the sixth-most talented team in the country. None. Zero.
What this ranking doesn't do is stratify or give more bearing to older, higher ranked players.
Georgia has 8 5-stars on their roster : 3 FR, 2 SO, 3 JR. So, more than half are underclassmen.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:44 am to MeatPants
It's not bullshite, but you have to develop players once they get on campus.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:49 am to Triple Daves
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What this ranking doesn't do is stratify or give more bearing to older, higher ranked players.
Georgia has 8 5-stars on their roster : 3 FR, 2 SO, 3 JR. So, more than half are underclassmen.
ding ding ding
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:50 am to Triple Daves
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USA Today FBS Rankings,
I get trying to find something that ranks all teams, but it is pretty much the only thing out that that has Auburn outside the top 25
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 7:51 am
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:53 am to GenesChin
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I get trying to find something that ranks all teams, but it is pretty much the only thing out that that has Auburn outside the top 25
Generally evertime I used an advanced stat metric ranking (S&P+) or computer poll (Sagarin), 3/4 of the questions are about "THIS IS STUPID LSU IS RANKED 8TH THEY SUCK". So I used the only human ranking system that ranks everybody.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:55 am to Triple Daves
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Georgia has 8 5-stars on their roster : 3 FR, 2 SO, 3 JR. So, more than half are underclassmen
Most really good to great players leave their junior year, being a sophomore isn't an excuse. Hell, being a freshman isn't an excuse by the time you get 6-7 games of experience, Smart said that himself.
Maybe a QB or an OL gets kind of a pass his entire first year, but guys playing other positions should have picked it up by then.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:57 am to ScarletFire
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Most really good to great players leave their junior year, being a sophomore isn't an excuse. Hell, being a freshman isn't an excuse by the time you get 6-7 games of experience, Smart said that himself.
Maybe a QB or an OL gets kind of a pass his entire first year, but guys playing other positions should have picked it up by then.
I'd say Reuben Foster, Tim Williams and Jonathan Allen made a difference for Alabama this season.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 7:58 am
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:59 am to Triple Daves
georgia has recruited in the top ten for what, 15 straight years? richt was always in the top ten in recruiting. just never developed much going forward after recruiting.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:59 am to Crowknowsbest
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I'd say Reuben Foster, Tim Williams, Jonathan Allen made a difference for Alabama this season.
RF and JA would have been starting as true freshman at all but 1 or 2 other schools in America, and subsequently would have left after their junior years at those schools. Alabama players aren't really the best examples. One of maybe, well, 1 place where 5-stars show up, sit for 2 years then contribute for 1-2 years before they go to the NFL.
And Tim Williams was a 4-star from Baton Rouge that LSU didn't even offer. He was made into an elite player.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 8:00 am
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:00 am to Crowknowsbest
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I'd say Reuben Foster and Jonathan Allen made a difference for Alabama this season.
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Most really good to great players leave their junior year
One doesn't make the other untrue. Does UGA have no seniors on the roster?
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:01 am to Triple Daves
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RF and JA would have been starting as true freshman at all but 1 or 2 other schools in America, and subsequently would have left after their junior years at those schools. Alabama players aren't really the best examples. One of maybe, well, 1 place where 5-stars show up, sit for 2 years then contribute for 1-2 years before they go to the NFL.
And Tim Williams was a 4-star from Baton Rouge that LSU didn't even offer. He was made into an elite player.
Which is exactly why "stratifying" the talent by year is important.
Tim Williams was an extremely highly recruited player. LSU making a bad decision is their fault.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:01 am to ScarletFire
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One doesn't make the other untrue. Does UGA have no seniors on the roster?
Not really. We had like 4 senior contributors. 2 were graduate transfers. Our 2013 class was the worst in modern UGA history.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:03 am to Crowknowsbest
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Which is exactly why "stratifying" the talent by year is important.
Yea, I agree
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:05 am to Crowknowsbest
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Not really. We had like 4 senior contributors. 2 were graduate transfers. Our 2013 class was the worst in modern UGA history.
Worst in UGA history, still 12th in the country. Develop your players better and keep them out of legal trouble and maybe that class is looked at differently
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