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re: College football playoff should be about who is the best conference
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:11 pm to mizzoukills
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:11 pm to mizzoukills
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All major conferences should have a stake in the playoff.
hard to squeeze 5 teams in a 4 team playoff
but i do like the idea (expand to 6 teams)
and have 1 wildcard
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:12 pm to PBD4BAMA
PBD4BAMA
You are in the vast minority of Bama fans who think this...
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hard to squeeze 5 teams in a 4 team playoff but i do like the idea (expand to 6 teams) and have 1 wildcard
You are in the vast minority of Bama fans who think this...
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:13 pm to mizzoukills
biased*
It's crazy how many people use "bias" as an adjective on this board.
It's crazy how many people use "bias" as an adjective on this board.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:13 pm to mizzoukills
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The crying and moaning is just Bama fans worried the rigged system is being repaired. Pitiful.
Then maybe you should change your logo
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:14 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Your comparison was off the begin with.
If the #1 seed in the SEC basketball tournament lost, they would still make the NCAA tournament but it would hurt their seeding. In the same way Bama's seeding in the college playoff would fall if they lost to Florida. Although they would still make it. If anything the example you gave hurts your argument.
If the #1 seed in the SEC basketball tournament lost, they would still make the NCAA tournament but it would hurt their seeding. In the same way Bama's seeding in the college playoff would fall if they lost to Florida. Although they would still make it. If anything the example you gave hurts your argument.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:19 pm to mizzoukills
Not all conferences are created equal.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:20 pm to arwicklu
The only mistake OU made was scheduling Houston, if they schedule anyone rent a win they are in the playoffs with a win over Okl St.
The conference title games need to go away, schedule another conference game instead. The SEC title game served it's purpose, why should Bama have to play it, it's the same back in 2011, LSU did not need to play UGA that year.
Ohio St and Michigan, the 2 best Big 10 teams are not even in the title game but would have had they been in Wisconsin's division.
The conference title games need to go away, schedule another conference game instead. The SEC title game served it's purpose, why should Bama have to play it, it's the same back in 2011, LSU did not need to play UGA that year.
Ohio St and Michigan, the 2 best Big 10 teams are not even in the title game but would have had they been in Wisconsin's division.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:20 pm to elposter
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To try and win a conference title of course.
Big deal, the current system has made conference championships meaningless. Condi Rice will just vote for OSU over PSU, and there you'll have it. Great system, right?
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Comparing a 4 team college football playoff to the 68 team basketball tournament doesn't really work
Jesus fricking Christ, you people hear something, and just repeat it without even fricking thinking about it. Forget basketball. Should a 1 seed IN ANY frickING SPORT YOU WANT TO PICK ever advance after losing to an 8 seed?
No.
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It's fine to give the Cinderella story underdog conference champion an automatic spot in the a 68 team tournament in basketball with 30 something wild card spots, but not in a 4 team college football playoff.
I agree, that's why I advocate an 8 team playoff.
I'm not sure why Alabama fans are so quick to dismiss all of the SEC titles they've won over the decades. Keep the meaning in conference titles, have a tournament of champions.
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Florida's blowout loss to a 9-3 FSU, blowout loss to a 7-5 Arkansas, and their loss to an 8-4 Tennessee team unequivocally should preclude them from the 4 team playoff to determine the best team in the country.
I agree. But should they win the SEC, they should be invited to an 8 team playoff. I never want to see the SEC champions left out of the national title picture again. I've seen it way too many times in the poll days.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:26 pm to rockiee
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If the #1 seed in the SEC basketball tournament lost, they would still make the NCAA tournament but it would hurt their seeding. In the same way Bama's seeding in the college playoff would fall if they lost to Florida. Although they would still make it. If anything the example you gave hurts your argument.
Come on, let's try to keep on target here. Someone asked if I thought Florida should go to the playoffs if they beat Alabama for the SECC.
Yes, the conference champion should advance. If you keep them out, and let Alabama advance in spite of the loss, that would be like saying, "Well, we think Duke is a better team than Valparaiso, so we think they should advance even though Valparaiso beat them." Upsets happen. Win the fricking games and advance, lose and sit at home.
I'm not sure why everyone still wants opinion polls to determine who gets in the playoff. We might as well go back to the old system and just vote for who we think the champion is.
Either vote, or don't vote. Either be objective, or subjective. Don't try to be both.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:30 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Win the fricking games.
Maybe the 8-4 conference champion should've done more of that in the regular season.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:35 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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esus fricking Christ, you people hear something, and just repeat it without even fricking thinking about it. Forget basketball. Should a 1 seed IN ANY frickING SPORT YOU WANT TO PICK ever advance after losing to an 8 seed?
No, but that isn't what conference championship games (or conference tournaments) are for. They are separate from the national tournament, but can impact selection and seeding of course.
I'm not saying your tournament of champions idea is a terrible idea. I can appreciate that it has merit. I don't happen to like it because I actually like the uniqueness of college football in that it still has the greatest regular season of all the major sports in my opinion. Pretty much from that first game over Labor Day weekend you have this feeling that your season is in the balance. Every game feels huge. You don't get that in other sports.
I can appreciate the idea of making the conference title games/champions an extension of the national playoff, but I can't say I like the idea of 3 loss teams playing for the college football national title. I think rational people can disagree on this.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:37 pm to mizzoukills
So Ohio State is left out. Florida over Bama and if Clemson loses to Virginia Tech they should be left out as well. There are lots of stupid sob on this site and most of them support this ludicrous idea. Until there are at least 6 teams where all five power conferences are represented I don't want to hear squat about winning your conference.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:39 pm to mizzoukills
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which should be determined by ONE team who won that conference playing the best representatives from the other major conferences.
No, this should be the 4 BEST teams. period. If not, why even have a playoff?
All conference are not created equal.
this is THE VERY ARGUMENT that led the NCAA basketball tourney to expand to 32 and then 64 teams. Up until the mid 70's the NCAA tourney only took conference champs and UCLA won the dam thing 8 straight times.
If we're gonna have a playoff, the 4 best teams play. The champ of the Big 12 is not the same thing as the Big 10 champ, etc.
This is why the playoff will be 10 teams eventually. 5 conference champs, 5 at large teams. Anything less than 10 is not a true playoff.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:42 pm to mizzoukills
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If Bama cannot win their conference they shouldn't represent the conference in the playoffs.
I didn't know you were an LSU fan.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:42 pm to bamasgot13
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your argument assumes all conferences are equal
No it doesn't, as a matter of fact, it depends on them being unequal to reward the highest seed with the lowest seed.
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There are probably 3-4 SEC teams that could have won the Big 12 this year and 2-3 that could have won the Pac.
That is completely subjective, and there is no way to prove it. So why even take that approach into consideration? Why not just use an objective system?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:45 pm to nicholastiger
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Ohio St and Michigan, the 2 best Big 10 teams
If being conference champions doesn't mean you're the best in your conference, how can we think that being the national champions means you're the best in the nation?
What does "champion" even mean?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:53 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
So you think Penn state is a better team than Ohio State? Do you really think that if a team has an off night and loses to an inferior opponent that makes the winner the better team?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:59 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Exactly.
Why even play any games? Just announce at the beginning of season Bama and Ohio State will play for the championship.
I mean, everyone already "knows" those are the two best teams.
Bama could lose 3 or 4 games and they'd still bitch that they were the best team in the country. They'd say something retarded like, "Losses happen. Sometimes lesser teams get lucky. Bama is still the most talented team in the country. Just look at recruiting stats. Bama deserves to be in the playoff for being the most talented team."
I swear these people are fools. But they're dedicated fool...ill give them that!
Why even play any games? Just announce at the beginning of season Bama and Ohio State will play for the championship.
I mean, everyone already "knows" those are the two best teams.
Bama could lose 3 or 4 games and they'd still bitch that they were the best team in the country. They'd say something retarded like, "Losses happen. Sometimes lesser teams get lucky. Bama is still the most talented team in the country. Just look at recruiting stats. Bama deserves to be in the playoff for being the most talented team."
I swear these people are fools. But they're dedicated fool...ill give them that!
Posted on 11/28/16 at 5:01 pm to elposter
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I think rational people can disagree on this.
Wow, there's a rarity for the board.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 5:03 pm to mizzoukills
Wrong. When Virginia Tech beats Clemson, they should go to the playoffs? No.
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