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re: College Baseball Landscape: National Seeds/Regional Hosts and More
Posted on 5/8/16 at 6:30 pm to lsu711
Posted on 5/8/16 at 6:30 pm to lsu711
quote:Thinking wife and I are heading on a cruise the last week of May, first week of June. But, I have yet to book it in case LSU gets shipped to some faraway land. Would pass on the cruise to attend a regional in Miami or Michigan
I expect LSU will be shipped to a made for TV regional at Miami or Michigan.
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 6:42 pm to LC412000
quote:Condolences.
Would pass on the cruise to attend a regional in Miami or Michigan
Posted on 5/8/16 at 6:45 pm to Diamondawg
quote:He's thinking about host sites--those are announced on Sunday, but the national seeds are not announced until the full field is released.quote:??
I'd take that bet, but I'd be cheating because National seeds are announced before SEC Tournament is finished.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:16 am to twk
According to a show I heard early Sunday morning on satellite radio, there has been a lot of discussion in Omaha the last couple years of the intentional effort to configure it for the best chance of having a diversity of conferences and regions represented in Omaha.
Expect the committee to allow no more than 4 host national seeds from the SEC or ACC, and possibly fewer than most people think.
And, expect them to try match particular SEC teams in super-regionals so that no more than 4 SEC teams can make it to Omaha, and attempts to make it so that no more than 2 top teams from each conference make it to Omaha including matching SEC teams in first round brackets.
What does this look like?
You will see super-regionals setup to eliminate really good teams early in Omaha or in the super-regionals. For example, we will see a bracket matching ATM and Florida, or MSU and Florida, and South Carolina with Vanderbilt, Ole Miss with LSU or MSU, or the latter two etc, and Virginia with Louisville or either with FSU/NC State, and maybe even Miami and FSU early in Omaha.
Meanwhile, they will put the best non-host non-major conference teams to try to upset key SEC and ACC teams like they did last year, and send middle SEC teams to the West Coast- though that might be a good thing for the SEC this year.
They will separate the best teams of the other major conferences to provide a path for them to have the best chance at spoiling an SEC or ACC tournament and even an SEC vs ACC tournament in Omaha.
That means easier paths for TCU, Oregon State, Michigan, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, Cal etc, and Creighton, Coastal, BYU, Southern Miss, FAU, Alabama State, East Carolina in SEC and ACC brackets.
We will also see fewer than expected SEC top seeds in softball and a similar strategy. Expect to see the softball committee protect the best non-SEC team, Michigan, all the way to the finals as much as possible and a more difficult road for Florida to try to avoid a rematch. The best SEC teams will be loaded on one side with Florida. Michigan's side will see one or two SEC teams.
Expect the committee to allow no more than 4 host national seeds from the SEC or ACC, and possibly fewer than most people think.
And, expect them to try match particular SEC teams in super-regionals so that no more than 4 SEC teams can make it to Omaha, and attempts to make it so that no more than 2 top teams from each conference make it to Omaha including matching SEC teams in first round brackets.
What does this look like?
You will see super-regionals setup to eliminate really good teams early in Omaha or in the super-regionals. For example, we will see a bracket matching ATM and Florida, or MSU and Florida, and South Carolina with Vanderbilt, Ole Miss with LSU or MSU, or the latter two etc, and Virginia with Louisville or either with FSU/NC State, and maybe even Miami and FSU early in Omaha.
Meanwhile, they will put the best non-host non-major conference teams to try to upset key SEC and ACC teams like they did last year, and send middle SEC teams to the West Coast- though that might be a good thing for the SEC this year.
They will separate the best teams of the other major conferences to provide a path for them to have the best chance at spoiling an SEC or ACC tournament and even an SEC vs ACC tournament in Omaha.
That means easier paths for TCU, Oregon State, Michigan, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, Cal etc, and Creighton, Coastal, BYU, Southern Miss, FAU, Alabama State, East Carolina in SEC and ACC brackets.
We will also see fewer than expected SEC top seeds in softball and a similar strategy. Expect to see the softball committee protect the best non-SEC team, Michigan, all the way to the finals as much as possible and a more difficult road for Florida to try to avoid a rematch. The best SEC teams will be loaded on one side with Florida. Michigan's side will see one or two SEC teams.
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:45 am to TheRaid
How would you get 2 national seed teams to face each other in a super regional? Pulling from your example of ATM v FL
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:47 am to Shepherd88
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How would you get 2 national seed teams to face each other in a super regional?
you wouldn't. it's impossible
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:51 am to lsufball19
National seeds cannot meet each other until Omaha. Hard and fast.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:56 am to TheRaid
They've been doing this crap for a few years.
However, this year is different because the SEC and ACC is so much better than the rest of the country.
Sub-100 RPI teams lead the Big Ten and Pac 12. Think about that.
Texas Tech is a stretch to keep all eight national seeds from being SEC or ACC.
12 of the 13 top teams in the RPI are SEC or ACC. Texas Tech at 11 is the only one that isn't.
You can go deeper and 15 of the top 17 teams are SEC or ACC. Costal Carolina at 14 is the other exception.
Now you have another issue. If you consider the "Sun Belt" stretching from Texas to the East Coast through the Southern states, 21 of the top 22 and 27 of the top 30 teams in the RPI are in this geographic area.
This is a strange year for college baseball. Normally, there are 3-4 West Coast teams locks to host. There may only be one this year and they will be undeserving.
However, this year is different because the SEC and ACC is so much better than the rest of the country.
Sub-100 RPI teams lead the Big Ten and Pac 12. Think about that.
Texas Tech is a stretch to keep all eight national seeds from being SEC or ACC.
12 of the 13 top teams in the RPI are SEC or ACC. Texas Tech at 11 is the only one that isn't.
You can go deeper and 15 of the top 17 teams are SEC or ACC. Costal Carolina at 14 is the other exception.
Now you have another issue. If you consider the "Sun Belt" stretching from Texas to the East Coast through the Southern states, 21 of the top 22 and 27 of the top 30 teams in the RPI are in this geographic area.
This is a strange year for college baseball. Normally, there are 3-4 West Coast teams locks to host. There may only be one this year and they will be undeserving.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:53 pm to Shepherd88
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How would you get 2 national seed teams to face each other in a super regional? Pulling from your example of ATM v FL
I could have been more clear in how I worded it. They would be seeded to be on the same side of the bracket to eliminate each other to avoid SEC v SEC in the finals, rather than where they should be seeded. My examples for different scenarios were mixed with each other, so it wasn't clear.
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 5/9/16 at 2:23 pm to anc
quote:I can remember back in 80s when Regionals were truly regionalized (8 six team regionals) Maine Black Bears would routinely get to Omaha. They have made a few regionals since the format changed but never made it back to Omaha.
They've been doing this crap for a few years.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 4:05 pm to Diamondawg
It's not as easy as they want though. There will be SEC teams upsetting the hosts and still the same outcome. They do try and engineer it that way but it rarely works. SEC and ACC about to do work
Posted on 5/9/16 at 5:39 pm to anc
Wish I could get excited about it. But I don't think the Hogs are gonna make it to Omaha.
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