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Posted on 7/26/12 at 1:56 pm to Darth Slive
Posted on 7/26/12 at 1:56 pm to Darth Slive
I don't think Tanny did that badly under pressure.
Its just when you run the same damn passing plays all game the DBs are eventually going to start jumping the routes.
I mean, I could have understood his commitment to passing a little more if we utilized a ton of play action to freeze defenders but we didn't.
Its just when you run the same damn passing plays all game the DBs are eventually going to start jumping the routes.
I mean, I could have understood his commitment to passing a little more if we utilized a ton of play action to freeze defenders but we didn't.
This post was edited on 7/26/12 at 1:58 pm
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 2:23 pm to Ball Gravy
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Led by 17 against Okie State at half -- Lost by 1
Led by 18 against Arky at half -- Lost by 4
Led Mizzou by 11 in 4th Quarter -- Lost in OT
Led Kansas State by 14 in 4th -- Lost in OT
Led Texas by 13 -- Lost
frick you for making me relive all of those games, Ball Gravy
Goddamn 2011 was painful. I'd almost rather get blown out every week than know how close we were to a 1 loss season
Posted on 7/26/12 at 2:29 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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I'd almost rather get blown out every week than know how close we were to a 1 loss season
I'd counter that, with Mike Sherman, we were closer to a 7-loss season than a 1-loss season.
Case in point: Week 5 at Texas Tech.
Halftime score was 31-20 A&M. In the second half, we went into classic meltdown mode. In the third Quarter, Tech was driving and ready to kick a FG to cut the lead to 5 (they later scored a TD right afterwards) but special teams came through with Terrence Frederick returning a blocked FG 65 yards for the score. After Tech cut the lead to 45-40, I was certain that they would recover the onside kick and find a way to win, but we pulled it out.
The Baylor game was the only game in which we used the middle of the field (how do you think Swope tore them up so badly?)
Posted on 7/26/12 at 2:35 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
I agree--as close as we were to attaining great heights, we were just as close to the abyss.
Makes me mad every time I think about it. We stuck with what was working the ENTIRE game, and it paid off. What was so hard about that?
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The Baylor game was the only game in which we used the middle of the field (how do you think Swope tore them up so badly?)
Makes me mad every time I think about it. We stuck with what was working the ENTIRE game, and it paid off. What was so hard about that?
Posted on 7/26/12 at 2:45 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
It will never happen but I would love to sit down with Sherman and ask him:
1. Why wouldn't you pass over the middle?
2. Why wouldn't you hire an Offensive Coordinator.
3. Everyone (opponent's and home fans could see it start to drift away after the first series of the second half, why didn't he see it.
4. We beat RGIII like a drum. No one else did. Why didn't we copy that?
5. Why stick with an obviously hurt QB? He couldn't throw the ball and it was no secret to opposing teams. I mean even Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder could see it.
6. What was the deal with Jeff Fuller?
The deciding factor was loosing to Missouri, at home, in OT. I don't want to dis my fellow SEC refugee's but losing to Missouri, at Kyle Field, in OT? No excuse for that.
It would never happen but I would love to get a non coach speak answer.
And I liked Sherman and wish him well with the Dolphins.
1. Why wouldn't you pass over the middle?
2. Why wouldn't you hire an Offensive Coordinator.
3. Everyone (opponent's and home fans could see it start to drift away after the first series of the second half, why didn't he see it.
4. We beat RGIII like a drum. No one else did. Why didn't we copy that?
5. Why stick with an obviously hurt QB? He couldn't throw the ball and it was no secret to opposing teams. I mean even Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder could see it.
6. What was the deal with Jeff Fuller?
The deciding factor was loosing to Missouri, at home, in OT. I don't want to dis my fellow SEC refugee's but losing to Missouri, at Kyle Field, in OT? No excuse for that.
It would never happen but I would love to get a non coach speak answer.
And I liked Sherman and wish him well with the Dolphins.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:04 pm to agswin
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4. We beat RGIII like a drum. No one else did. Why didn't we copy that?
Like a ragged doll. The thing that drives me crazy is that the average college fan automatically assumes we lost to them last year, since they had their best season ever and RGIII won the Heisman. But not only did we beat Baylor, we stomped them and humiliated RGIII. The guy was pretty much throwing a hissy fit on the field he was so frustrated. He gave everyone else heartache all year and we owned him. HOW IN THE WORLD DID THAT HAPPEN?
Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:05 pm to Cooter Davenport
Because Baylor shits down their leg when they see A&M.
Probably has to do with 2 wins against us in 27 years.
Probably has to do with 2 wins against us in 27 years.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:24 pm to Jefferson Davis
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I can't even imagine the uproar that would occur within the LSU fanbase if this happened.
Never happen. After Les blew a 17 and 18 point lead in back to back games he wouldn't be there for the next three.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 4:07 pm to ljhog
Last year was just shear agony. One other stat just for fun, A&M was favored in 12 of 13 games last year. The only game we were underdogs was OU.
The toughest thing about it was Sherm is a fantastic person who absolutely "got" A&M. He loved the military tradition and even went to Iraq to meet with Aggie soldiers. He was all class and refused to negative recruit. He was the rare highly successful NFL coach that simply loved teaching kids and the college game, especially A&M. You wanted him to be successful which made it that much harder. By comparison everyone wanted to put a bullet in Fran and RC divided Aggies like few things ever have.
It's impossible to know if he keeps his job without the Texas loss. Odds are he would have gotten one more shot just because the feeling was he would be a good transitional figure. That Texas game though was the unforgivable sin. I can't even talk about it it gets me so angry. I went out and bought a new deer rifle the next day so I could just think about shooting something instead of that game. There was simply a large portion of the A&M fan base that would never have been able to look past it. Besides all of that, A&M has a lot of pent up angst from a decade of not only mediocre football but an attitude that it was somehow becoming acceptable.
Either way, it is pretty clear so far that Sumlin is what we need right now. He must win but at this point he has done everything else from recruiting to improving S&C to buying in to the SEC to being a fantastic public image of the program. We will just have to see where it leads.
The toughest thing about it was Sherm is a fantastic person who absolutely "got" A&M. He loved the military tradition and even went to Iraq to meet with Aggie soldiers. He was all class and refused to negative recruit. He was the rare highly successful NFL coach that simply loved teaching kids and the college game, especially A&M. You wanted him to be successful which made it that much harder. By comparison everyone wanted to put a bullet in Fran and RC divided Aggies like few things ever have.
It's impossible to know if he keeps his job without the Texas loss. Odds are he would have gotten one more shot just because the feeling was he would be a good transitional figure. That Texas game though was the unforgivable sin. I can't even talk about it it gets me so angry. I went out and bought a new deer rifle the next day so I could just think about shooting something instead of that game. There was simply a large portion of the A&M fan base that would never have been able to look past it. Besides all of that, A&M has a lot of pent up angst from a decade of not only mediocre football but an attitude that it was somehow becoming acceptable.
Either way, it is pretty clear so far that Sumlin is what we need right now. He must win but at this point he has done everything else from recruiting to improving S&C to buying in to the SEC to being a fantastic public image of the program. We will just have to see where it leads.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 4:54 pm to aggressor
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it is pretty clear so far that Sumlin is what we need right now
I agree. The big difference between Sumlin and the past two is that the others already had some big mark against them at this point.
Fran straight up ditched his Alabama players in the middle of the night, which many, even at the time, thought was worrisomely skeezy. It turned out he was a major skeezehound, which is what we were afraid of.
Sherman was never warmly embraced. His hire was a major letdown head-scratcher and the fanbase was either "meh" or against him from the start. Mike Sherman is a classy guy, unlike Fran, but he was exactly what we were worried about: a major snorlax.
Neither of those two did jack for our image, neither purposefully set out to rep the brand in the media, neither "played the game", neither had charisma. RC was more charismatic than Fran or Sherm, but not in the way that attracts recruits - he was an East Texas / Louisiana good ol' boy, which is fine for the fanbase, but NOT what A&M needs more of in terms of media coverage or for recruits. Sumlin on the other hand is out there doing everything he can to get his name, our name, and our brand in the media and the minds of potential recruits. The guy is charming as can be and "cool" like we haven't had... maybe ever.
Of course, we need to see the guy freakin' coach a game and WIN, but right now he's ahead of RC, Fran, and Sherman in terms of doing the things Mack Brown has made his freakin career on, but which we never have even remotely been close to marginally doing right. We make fun of that guy for being a pitchman more than a coach, but if ever there's been a school that needs a dang pitch man, it's A&M.
This post was edited on 7/26/12 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 7/26/12 at 5:01 pm to Cooter Davenport
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4. We beat RGIII like a drum. No one else did. Why didn't we copy that?
Like a ragged doll. The thing that drives me crazy is that the average college fan automatically assumes we lost to them last year, since they had their best season ever and RGIII won the Heisman. But not only did we beat Baylor, we stomped them and humiliated RGIII. The guy was pretty much throwing a hissy fit on the field he was so frustrated. He gave everyone else heartache all year and we owned him. HOW IN THE WORLD DID THAT HAPPEN?
We didn't beat him like a drum. He threw for a then Baylor record 430 yards and 3 TDs.
We won that game for two reasons.
#1 - our defense shut down their ground game holding Ganaway to only 34 yards when he averaged 119 a game last year.
#2 - their defense was made of Swiss cheese giving up 6 TDs and 415 yards to Tannehill, 681 total yards of offense, and let us convert 10/13 times on 3rd down.
This post was edited on 7/26/12 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 7/26/12 at 5:09 pm to Dr RC
I'm a pretty mellow guy, but last year was the first year I ever let an Aggie loss piss me off so much that I wouldn't watch games for the rest of the weekend. Sherman never learned from his mistakes, and it just sickened me. He's an outstanding man and a good NFL coach. I wish him nothing but the best.
Sumlin certainly seems to be the right man as the only measurable metrics would be verbal commits. I am happier than a puppy with two peckers. The way he and his staff has performed there. But, he has to just win, baby.
Sumlin certainly seems to be the right man as the only measurable metrics would be verbal commits. I am happier than a puppy with two peckers. The way he and his staff has performed there. But, he has to just win, baby.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 5:12 pm to ColoradoAg
Sherman's biggest flaw by far was his defensive recruiting. He simply couldn't recruit an elite DT.
Posted on 7/26/12 at 6:32 pm to cardboardboxer
I just hope Sumlin and KK are serious when they say all they care about is matchups that work.
I can never get over how we would be running roughshod over people with CMike/Cyrus only for him to quit doing it all for the sake of remaining balanced.
I can never get over how we would be running roughshod over people with CMike/Cyrus only for him to quit doing it all for the sake of remaining balanced.
This post was edited on 7/26/12 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 7/26/12 at 7:40 pm to Jefferson Davis
Sherman's offense is better than Sumlin's/KK's imo, and DeRuyter was better than whoever the frick we have now, but Sumlin has handled the SEC transition well, and has recruited very very very well. Who knows what would have happened though. We were talented enough to win every game we played this year, and if our corners were healthy we could have fairer better against OU as well. Woulda shoulda coulda I guess but it was easily the most heartbreaking season of college football I have watched.
Posted on 7/27/12 at 6:44 am to TeLeFaWx
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and DeRuyter was better than whoever the frick we have now
Garrick Williams covering Jarius Wright...the entire game.
You argument is invalid.
Posted on 7/27/12 at 7:32 am to CGSC Lobotomy
This made me 
for some reason
for some reason Posted on 7/27/12 at 8:13 am to Dr RC
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We didn't beat him like a drum. He threw for a then Baylor record 430 yards and 3 TDs.
I think he meant we beat him like a drum physically. RG3 got thrown around like a rag doll all afternoon. Yes, he did his damage, but our D took a serious toll on him physically--he literally limped off the field against us both in 2010 and 2011.
Posted on 7/27/12 at 8:16 am to ljhog
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Never happen. After Les blew a 17 and 18 point lead in back to back games he wouldn't be there for the next three.
You're correct. Those are Gerry Dinardo era results.
Posted on 7/27/12 at 8:25 am to TbirdSpur2010
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I think he meant we beat him like a drum physically. RG3 got thrown around like a rag doll all afternoon. Yes, he did his damage, but our D took a serious toll on him physically--he literally limped off the field against us both in 2010 and 2011.
Yes, this. If you don't think he got beat like a drum, you didn't watch the game. RGIII got physically assaulted all through both games he played against us and it showed. He was playing scared and eveyone there could tell. That means no heroics. We wrote the script for beating that guy. Others failed to read it or got mesmerized by him and didn't follow through... I dunno why other teams couldn't do it exactly, but we had the same plan two years in a row. If you disrespected him, it paid. If you brought the heat on him like you weren't afraid of him and beat him up whenever possible, he would fold, lapse into his primadonna act, and become much less effective.
This post was edited on 7/27/12 at 8:29 am
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