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re: Clowney Frustrated With His Defensive Role

Posted on 9/8/13 at 12:52 pm to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/8/13 at 12:52 pm to
That's why Spurrier is not as good of a coach as he once was. SC is and forever shall be an inferior program.
Posted by timtebow
Member since Sep 2013
14 posts
Posted on 9/8/13 at 1:38 pm to
He must have had another stomach bug
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 9/8/13 at 1:44 pm to
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That's a far cry from three people can't stop me.


Tiny stopped him last year when he was on fire and then at media days he said Richardson was the best at "getting away with holding."

Posted by PDTigerfan
Hartsville, SC
Member since Dec 2012
67 posts
Posted on 9/8/13 at 1:47 pm to
The problem is not JUST Clowney. Last year SC had guys other than Clowney so when those guys stepped up and had to be accounted for it gave Clowney a chance to make plays. This year thats not happening so teams can just game plan for Clowney and push everyone else around.

SC also has some really young LBers. You can't replace two LBers and the Spur in the same year without issues. Especially considering those three guys where top 3 in tackles last year.

While the D line was eating blocks the LBers and Spur were making tackles last year. Thats not happening so far this season.
Posted by GooseSix
Member since Jun 2012
19512 posts
Posted on 9/8/13 at 1:48 pm to
One hit wonder IMO..
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 1:59 am to
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While the D line was eating blocks the LBers and Spur were making tackles last year. Thats not happening so far this season.
I hate to bump a useless thread and respond to a stupid post such a this one but this just shows you really have no idea what you're talking about. USC's top 4 tacklers so far are our new LBs. TJ Gurley is leading the SEC with 20 solo tackles.

You really can't respond by saying anything other than "Wow, I didn't realize that because I actually don't know what the fuc
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Last year SC had guys other than Clowney so when those guys stepped up and had to be accounted for it gave Clowney a chance to make plays. This year thats not happening so teams can just game plan for Clowney and push everyone else around.
This is also just terribly wrong. Chaz Sutton, Kelcy Quarles, and JT Surratt are all very good players lining up with Clowney. USC leads the SEC in TFLs. I love how you say "teams can just gameplan for Clowney...blah blah" when we've only actually played two teams. Georgia's plan worked because Gurley and Murray eventually wore us down but UNC's plan failed misserably. Why don't we wait for a bigger sample size?
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 2:09 am to
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One hit wonder IMO..
1st: What exactly do you mean by one hit wonder? He's been one of the premier SEC defenders for TWO years. He was making ridiculous plays as a freshman.
2nd: Isn't it a litte early to be counting him out for the rest of the season? I could understand if this was like week 11 and he only had 25 tackes and 3.5 sacks or something but come on. No OC is excited to have us on their schedule.
Georgia's Oline was supposed to be a huge strength for them this year as they returned all 5 starters. Playing at home with your backs against the wall is a lot different than playing in a racous 80,000+ capacity stadium for the 1st game of the year. UGA's Oline stepped up and showed what people had been expecting of them.
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 2:12 am to
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SC is and forever shall be an inferior program.
Well if being a top ten team for the past 3 years with no signs of slowing down is being an inferior program then I hope we never change.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 2:23 am to
Clowney's whining right now and is as overexposed in the media as Manziel but in a different way (his problem is less douchebaggery, constant on and off-field shenanigans and more way too much media for any player). However, Clowney can't remotely compete with the ultimate douche. He'll have to put in a LOT more work if he wants to be on the same level as Manziel in the douche dept. He's working the hype dept. well but has a long arse way to go compete with JFF in that regard.

That said, I think one of the problems is that he doesn't have the same supporting cast he used to. Fame has went to his head somewhat but he also looked exhausted from the start and less than 100 percent against UGA and quite pissed off that he wasn't performing to his own expectations.

If it's not an injury that's been kept quiet then maybe he'll get his mind and body right.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
20863 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 2:25 am to
Pretty lame comment. What a clowney.
Posted by JombieZombie
Member since Nov 2009
7687 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 2:28 am to
He'll be just another player in the NFL.
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 2:43 am to
Okay, so let's say Clowney has been taking it a little bit easier in practice and has been slack about conditioning (which is wierd because there were reports all spring and summer of him having to step off the field just so the offense could actually run some plays without him totally blowing shite up, reports of him running a sub 4.5 I believe it was, and kocking sleds over), or lets say he is actually sick or has some nagging injury. Or maybe the fame has rushed to his head (which is somewhat to be expected of a 20 year old thats been told he's one of the best all his life and we all know ESPN can take shite way too far) and he thinks he can win on talent alone.
Its honestly probably a combination of all 3.

But is there no one out there that thinks he can't turn it around in the next few weeks? I could understand if this was week 10 and he only had like 25 tackles and 3 sacks or something but the reality is, we've only played two games. Couple that with UNC and UGA having good to great offenses that gameplanned to take Clowney out, and you get Clowney performing subpar.

Perhaps this has been a dose of reality and now he'll step his shite up. And maybe he can finally get rid of that so called stomach bug and that nagging injury will finally heal. He's still one of the most (if not THE most) feared defensive players in the SEC and no OC or head coach will say differently. Even if it takes a game vs Vandy and a bye week to get his shite together, I still think Clowney will start playing the way most expected him too.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 3:12 am to
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Perhaps this has been a dose of reality and now he'll step his shite up. And maybe he can finally get rid of that so called stomach bug and that nagging injury will finally heal. He's still one of the most (if not THE most) feared defensive players in the SEC and no OC or head coach will say differently. Even if it takes a game vs Vandy and a bye week to get his shite together, I still think Clowney will start playing the way most expected him too.


That's what I'm hoping for as he was too damn good last year to continue like this. I don't know what's wrong with him but the hopeful sign was he was obviously mad during the game that he wasn't getting to UGA (you could see it when they zoomed in on his face). Of course, I still hope Tiny and company keep him in check during our game.
Posted by Ash'sProstheticHand
Member since Nov 2012
1146 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 3:23 am to
Not even Manziel has called out his coaches. I guess St. Clowney is the anti-Manziel (©ESPN 2013) in more ways than simply eschewing social media and clubs/bars, huh?
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 3:25 am to
Didn't Manziel shove his qb coach or something like that in the spring?
Posted by Ash'sProstheticHand
Member since Nov 2012
1146 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 3:28 am to
haha yea. During spring practice, one of the defensive assistants, who was standing just a few yards from Manziel, went nuts celebrating immediately after Manziel threw a pick. Manziel shoved him. Not that big a deal. Coaches and QBs yell at each other all the time after the QB throws a pick.
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 3:36 am to
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Manziel shoved him. Not that big a deal. Coaches and QBs yell at each other all the time after the QB throws a pick.
Oh okay gotcha so a player physically engaging their coach = no big deal. But what Clowney did is a big no-no. I think I'm beginning to understand this whole 'football' thing a lot better.
Posted by CrimsonChin
the gutter.
Member since Feb 2010
5857 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 5:13 am to
Damn, he is really acting like a big baby with this shite. Pitiful.
Posted by Good Times
Hill top in Tn
Member since Nov 2007
23481 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 6:15 am to
Once a player gets all the hype that Clowney got since " the hit", the opposing players have extra motivation to not be on the high lite reel, except to maybe be seen as being the ones to slay the dragon. Coaches scheme against their strengths, and it frustrates someone with all the hype, into not playing their position properly. JC is great at pursuit, so use it against him when you can. Frustration is a killer.
Posted by Bernie Moore
Member since May 2010
1859 posts
Posted on 9/9/13 at 6:54 am to
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This is what too much hype does to an athlete. Makes it all about them.


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siliconvalleytiger


Agreed! ESPN us turning these high school and college guys into self centered divas.
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