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re: Chubbs vs Fournette
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:25 am to djsdawg
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:25 am to djsdawg
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My point was that their stats were neck and neck unlike chubb and LF, thus the idea isn't close to as hypocritical. Stats supported the idea much better than you seem to be willing to admit.
So, for 5 games the stats show they were neck and neck so that makes it so for the season or their careers?
Gurley is considered more talented by most, slightly. Gordon was more productive. It doesn't matter how you try to spin it that is the reality of the situation.
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 10:27 am
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:32 am to rmnldr
I am as sick of these threads as everybody else. Let's give it a rest.....BUT....
Wasn't Fournette the #1 RB in the country?
It's possible.
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Chubb was a polished recruit from a pro-style HS team. Fournette was raw talent coming out of a spread HS team.
Wasn't Fournette the #1 RB in the country?
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If Fournette puts it all together this year he will be better than Chubb
It's possible.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:33 am to RB10
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However, you can't claim that unless you are basing it on potential.
No, we base it on the fact that when he was healthy he was unstoppable fricking beast. Everytime Gurley touched the ball even if it was a 1 yard gain you felt like he could house it because he just explodes thru people, around people, etc. The guy averaged almost 7 yards a pop. Melvin Gordon was a fine running back but if you go and watch highlight tapes of the 2 you can see why Gurley was drafted higher. Gurley is unbelievable.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:34 am to texag7
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Chubb by far. I don't think Fournette even cracks the top 4 or 5 when you do conference only stats.
You knew this would happen.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:38 am to RB10
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Todd Gurley has actually demonstrated a unique skill set vs. the highest level of competition available to him. MG played against weak arse competition.
Yet another argument UGA fans love to laugh at then LSU fans use it for Fournette.
You guys just continue to prove my point.
Seriously? Louisville had one of the best defenses in the country. We played both Auburn and Arkansas and Chubb did very well against them. Better than Fournette. Spin, spin, spin.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:39 am to Sev09
That IS a pretty run! 
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:43 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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No, we base it on the fact that when he was healthy he was unstoppable fricking beast. Everytime Gurley touched the ball even if it was a 1 yard gain you felt like he could house it because he just explodes thru people, around people, etc. The guy averaged almost 7 yards a pop. Melvin Gordon was a fine running back but if you go and watch highlight tapes of the 2 you can see why Gurley was drafted higher. Gurley is unbelievable.
While I agree that Gurley is the better of the two, barely, you act as if Gordon was some scrub. He was drafted 7 spots behind Gurley, it's not like he was taken in the 2nd or 3rd. He was just as explosive over his career as Gurley.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:46 am to RB10
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So, for 5 games the stats show they were neck and neck so that makes it so for the season or their careers?
Both were badass studs:
871 yards on 8.29 ypc
773 yards on 8.22 ypc
That proves Gurley was on a similar pace in 2014. The only spin is to disregard that reality and act as if the gap is as wide as the gap between Chubb vs LF in 2014.
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 10:47 am
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:47 am to DawgsLife
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Seriously? Louisville had one of the best defenses in the country. We played both Auburn and Arkansas and Chubb did very well against them. Better than Fournette. Spin, spin, spin.
UGA played plenty of good teams. What does that have to do with you guys using quality of opponent as a crutch for Gurley while laughing at LSU fans who do the same for Fournette?
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:49 am to RB10
htf can people continue to have the same discussion go multiple pages once a week?
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:50 am to djsdawg
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Both were badass studs:
871 yards on 8.29 ypc
773 yards on 8.22 ypc
That proves Gurley was on a similar pace in 2014. The only spin is to disregard that reality and act as if the gap is as wide as the gap between Chubb vs LF in 2014.
You love bringing up LSU fans using "ifs" and "maybes" and you give this gem.
What you're saying is Gurley "may" have finished with similar numbers "if" he hadn't gotten hurt, correct?
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:51 am to RB10
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What does that have to do with you guys using quality of opponent as a crutch for Gurley while laughing at LSU fans who do the same for Fournette?
Once again, Its not a good point for LF and NC. Here are the top 5 rush D's each faced:
Bama 4
Ark 12
UF 13
Wisconsin 23
OM 29
Clemson 5
UofL 10
Ark 12
UF 13
Mizzou 26
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:51 am to RB10
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So, for 5 games the stats show they were neck and neck so that makes it so for the season or their careers?
Dude. You brought up Gurley and Gordon as an example as if it somehow related to Chubb and LF.
At what point in their careers have Chubb and LF ever been neck and neck an ANY stat?
Don't shite on anyone for trying to extrapolate Gurley's full season stats when you're trying to extrapolate performance for Fournette's fricking college CAREER
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:51 am to RB10
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While I agree that Gurley is the better of the two, barely, you act as if Gordon was some scrub. He was drafted 7 spots behind Gurley, it's not like he was taken in the 2nd or 3rd. He was just as explosive over his career as Gurley.
If he was just explosive he would probably gotten more consideration as the best RB on the board. Gurley just had a pretty serious injury and was still drafted higher. Even with injury concerns teams thought more of Gurley.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:54 am to RB10
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ou love bringing up LSU fans using "ifs" and "maybes" and you give this gem.
What you're saying is Gurley "may" have finished with similar numbers "if" he hadn't gotten hurt, correct?
Because its based on what actually happened on the field, which LSU fans aren't basing it on. Its a major difference in logic.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:59 am to ATLdawg25
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Dude. You brought up Gurley and Gordon as an example as if it somehow related to Chubb and LF.
I brought it up as an example of the difference of attitude in UGA fans, and you guys have not let me down.
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Don't shite on anyone for trying to extrapolate Gurley's full season stats when you're trying to extrapolate performance for Fournette's fricking college CAREER
Not once have I said that Fournette will be better over the course of his career. You guys are so butthurt that you can't see past that.
Here's the breakdown:
Gurley has slightly more potential. Gordon was much more productive. Therefore, to UGA fans, Gurley is the better back because of his potential going forward, despite the numbers that may prove otherwise, and anyone who thinks different is delusional.
No one knows who has more potential out of Chubb and Fournette because they've played ONE frickING SEASON. Chubb was much more productive. Therefore, to UGA fans, Chubb is undoubtedly going to be better moving forward because of the numbers and anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.
Do I need to provide a definition of hypocrisy for you guys?
Posted on 8/19/15 at 11:01 am to djsdawg
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Because its based on what actually happened on the field, which LSU fans aren't basing it on. Its a major difference in logic.
LSU fans are basing it off of what happened on the field. They just aren't using the "first 5 games" as the measuring stick.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 11:03 am to RB10
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No one knows who has more potential out of Chubb and Fournette because they've played ONE frickING SEASON.
Do you think this statement is consistent with the opinions you've posted on the topic every other time it has come up?
Posted on 8/19/15 at 11:06 am to RB10
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By what measure was Todd Gurley better than him?
Well, I was trying to compare their first 5 games Wisconsin didn't play anyone worth a shite until December
Posted on 8/19/15 at 11:08 am to RB10
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LSU fans are basing it off of what happened on the field. They just aren't using the "first 5 games" as the measuring stick.
If you were basing it on what happened on the field, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Compare total yards and yards per carry:
- Gurley and Gordon were neck and neck through 5 games (apples to apples, all we can go by for a fair compare)
- NC and LF weren't through 13 (apples to apples, all we can go by for a fair compare)
Thats the difference, and its a BIG one.
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