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Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:50 am to scrooster
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That's great ... would you mind linking to some quotes from IMG prospects who say they care about who started the academy if you have a moment?
Are you being serious? Sure the kids aren't going to be the ones who immediately think of Weinke when it comes to IMG but Weinke is going to have a ton of connections. Much more than anyone else that is coming from IMG. If your point is Bama should focus on getting "teacher" more than a "recruiter" I agree but unless you are pulling in the top 25 recruits every year, it will certainly still help them in recruiting.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:51 am to Cocotheape
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Glad to see Weinke is being productive in his golden years! It's important the elderly population stay active for physical AND mental health
haha i came in here specifically to make an old man weinke joke a-hole
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:54 am to David Ricky
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Weinke was easily #1 on my hot board when VOLS QB coaching position opened up. Of course, Baby shoes Lyle went with Key Bump Canales. You should trust my opinion because I am an elite football mind on this board. A 1%er, if you will.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:55 am to rockiee
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Are you being serious? Sure the kids aren't going to be the ones who immediately think of Weinke when it comes to IMG but Weinke is going to have a ton of connections. Much more than anyone else that is coming from IMG.
Yea, I wasn't even going to get into a paragraph fight about it. But well said.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:57 am to scrooster
I am sure that Saban needs advice from Muschamp or USC message board fans about recruiting.
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 10:58 am
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:44 am to CapstoneGrad06
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Jesus, you seem disturbed by this.
Not in the least ... to the contrary. This hire gives IMG a better connection to Bama than vice versa. Unless someone is trying to make the case that IMG is about to become a prepatory satellite school for Bama because of his hiring by Saban?
I'll type it again. "Diminishing Returns" is the key here when it comes to IMG's relationship with both Bama and FSU. They can both only take so many ... after that the real relationships that really matter are between IMG and everyone else because Bama and FSU are going to pull out of IMG regardless.
Either a kid is placed at IMG or he is recruited and invited to be there for a reason ... which may, occasionally, result in a previously unknown showing up and signing with Bama or FSU, but that has got to happen so rarely that the odds are significantly against that being anything that any of the rest of us should worry about.
IMG is not like AAU basketball where corruption abounds ... or are some here claiming that Weinke's connection might facilitate some backroom negotiations for particular players? Because Weinke knows the ropes?
Sorry - I just don't see that happening but I suppose anything is possible now that Weinke is a REC puppet.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:15 pm to scrooster
Geez
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:16 pm to 1999
Saban has a little Weinke too.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:22 pm to JBearden
You gumps sure are being a bunch of defensive entitled little sandy vagina whiney bitches today ... all of y'all are not having your periods at the same time are you? What do they call that ... menstrual synchrony? Amirite or what.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:23 pm to scrooster
Good god man. You are overthinking this....you need a Xanax?
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:23 pm to 1999
Thanks
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:23 pm to scrooster
Says the guy getting super defensive because everyone in this thread isn't agreeing with him.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:30 pm to thatdude1985
Dude Carolina is like the best basketball team ever so like get off this guy's back.
Lmao
Lmao
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:38 pm to rockiee
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If your point is Bama should focus on getting "teacher" more than a "recruiter" I agree but unless you are pulling in the top 25 recruits every year, it will certainly still help them in recruiting.
Yeah ... they should have hired a teacher because they stopped recruiting a few years ago. They are in a selection phase right now.
A teacher would have been far more valuable.
They are pulling in nothing but Top 15 prospects at every position already .... as I typed earlier, Weinke as a recruiter evokes the Law of Diminishing Returns.
Weinke is not a bad hire ... he's just not a great hire. Saban could have done much better. We may be seeing a chink in his armor when we take into account how he was beaten - or rather how his system beat itself - in this last National Championship game.
I would hate to see a Dan Mullen type coaching and recruiting QBs under Saban. It would be a thing of beauty.
I can think of a few others who would be scary under Saban at that position. But who knows, Weinke may end-up being just that. He's got the chops to some degree - I mean he was great coaching QBs for the Rams ... oh, errr, wait. He was great coaching QBs at IMG .... oh, errr, wait. He was Dir of Football Ops there right?
I dunno ... Saban must know what he's doing. He's always done a great job hiring OCs and QB coaches ... oh, errrr, wait.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:43 pm to scrooster
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Yeah ... they should have hired a teacher because they stopped recruiting a few years ago. They are in a selection phase right now. A teacher would have been far more valuable.
I think Weinke was hired specifically as a QB teacher. I don't think we hired him because he created IMG Football.
He spent 5 years at IMG tutoring quarterbacks before they even had an actual high school football team.
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:44 pm to scrooster
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He's always done a great job hiring OCs and QB coaches ... oh, errrr, wait.
Wait, so you are saying Saban's history is hiring bad OCs?
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:51 pm to momentoftruth87
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Dude Carolina is like the best basketball team ever so like get off this guy's back.
That makes two Ark fans dick riding Saban's hire in this thread ... there is a pattern developing. Let's see how this plays out - could get interesting.
FWIW ... this thread has nothing to do with SC basketball.
I do disagree, with most evidently, that this is a home run hire by Saban for Bama. Strictly as a casual observer who respects Saban's accomplishments and work ethic and system ... this issue he seems to have with OCs and QBs and QB Coaches lately is worth noting. He showing some signs of ... I dunno what yet. Time will tell I guess but it would not surprise to see Bama begin to falter and fall a little below recent standards.
I remember well when it began to happen to The Bear and I remember well how quickly things turned. It happens to all great decision makers at some point in their careers where we either get too set in our ways to be flexible, or we become victims of our own success.
This hire should raise a caution flag of sorts for Bama fans. It's flashy, but after that ... who knows.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:53 pm to scrooster
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this issue he seems to have with OCs and QBs and QB Coaches lately is worth noting
Lane Kiffin was, in his 3 seasons overall, a fantastic offensive coordinator for Alabama.
Steve Sarkisian left to take the 2nd best offensive coaching job in all of American football.
What exactly is the "issue"?
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where we either get too set in our ways to be flexible
Too set in his ways? He just started a true freshman QB, ran the read option and played hurry up on offense. He now has a totally different recruiting philosophy regarding defensive players solely because of the spread.
Nick Saban may falter at some point, but it sure isn't because he's an old curmudgeon refusing to change like Les Miles.
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 3/1/17 at 12:53 pm to scrooster
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That makes two Ark fans dick riding Saban's hire in this thread
You think dick riding is having a different opinion than your own? You lack a lot of understanding for someone who is so old.
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