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CFP Rankings tonight -- Who'll be the top 6?

Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:10 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:10 pm
My guesstimation:

1. Alabama
2. Ohio State
3. Michigan
4. Clemson
5. Louisville
6. Washington (or maybe Wisc.)

(Revised based on good points made by others in this thread.)
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 3:14 pm
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:11 pm to
Auburn should be. Best 3 loss team in the country
Posted by SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:15 pm to
I woudl guess Washington at 6.

I think the like to signal with their top 5

Louisville could be top 4 but I wouldn't expect them to get in if they don't win the ACC.

Michigan vs OSU will also decide part of this.

I think if Washington wins out they are in.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:16 pm to
I think it is:

Bama
OSU
Michigan
Clemson
L'ville
Wisconsin

Michigan has 3 top 12 wins and a "better" loss IMO. Clemsons wins aren't as good and their loss is at home

That is using clear metrics but who knows how these guys will do this
Posted by OKtiger
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

Auburn should be. Best 3 loss team in the country


Y'all suck donkey dong

Should be below LSU
Posted by Rhodes_leading_home
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

Auburn should be. Best 3 loss team in the country


You are funny
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 1:19 pm
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:19 pm to
Bama
Nuts
Mich (don't agree with it though)
Clemson
Louisville
Wisconsin
Posted by Hullabaloo
LA
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:19 pm to
1.Dylan
2.Dylan
3.Dylan
4.Dylan
5.Dylan

















and Dylan
Posted by Triple Daves
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:21 pm to
They love that Strength of Record metric

ESPN Strength of Record
1. Alabama (99.4)
2. Clemson (96.6)
3. Ohio State (95.1)
4. Wisconsin (93.7)
5. Louisville (92.3)
6. West Virginia (91.6)
7. Michigan (91.3)
8. Colorado (90.8)
9. Washington (90.4)
10. Western Michigan (90.0)


So, my guess would be :
1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Ohio State
4. Michigan
5. Louisville
6. Washington
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 1:24 pm
Posted by Buckeye06
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:25 pm to
Is that their "how much better is this team than what an average team would do against their schedule" ranking?
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

"how much better than ranking"?


Yep - it's an interesting metric. Basically a combination of strength of schedule and then whether you actually won any of the games.

quote:

Strength of Record: Reflects chance that an average Top 25 team would have team's record or better, given the schedule. On a 0 to 100 scale, where 100 is best.
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 1:27 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:31 pm to
Good points. They very well may put Michigan ahead of Clemson.
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 1:44 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:36 pm to
Strength of Record is important, but so are other factors like quality wins (especially on road), comparison of losses, game control, eye test, head-to-head...
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 1:37 pm
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

Strength of Record is important, but so are other factors like quality wins (especially on road), comparison of losses, game control, eye test...


Yea, agree. I like it for determing a total body of work. Then you can look at quality wins for top level achievement and the FPI/S&P type models for overall quality of the team.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:53 pm to
I re-read the committee's ask this morning and found it interesting in all this debate:

quote:

When circumstances at the margins indicate that teams are comparable, then the following criteria must be considered: ? Championships won ? Strength of schedule ? Head-to-head competition (if it occurred) ? Comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory)


So only if they originally have OSU and PSU (for example) as close would they go to the tiebreakers which PSU would likely win. But they may not view PSU and OSU as "at the margins" with each other. Other people may not have read it closely before (I hadn't)

LINK
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23111 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:53 pm to
stupid double
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 1:54 pm
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:55 pm to
fricking Louisville. Why the hell is the Florida state win carrying them so much. What else have they done. They've had some poor games against bad teams along with a good loss

Overrated as frick. Just because their qb is a fast runner
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:56 pm to
Y'all are so fricking easy

At least make me work for it
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 1:57 pm
Posted by Triple Daves
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Member since Sep 2016
5740 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

So only if they originally have OSU and PSU (for example) as close would they go to the tiebreakers which PSU would likely win. But they may not view PSU and OSU as "at the margins" with each other. Other people may not have read it closely before (I hadn't)


Yea, it's like with the whole TCU-Baylor thing. They don't look at head to head or Conference Titles until the very end or something.

Honestly, I think that's all bullshite. I think they sit around and decide what they want to do and then craft their message based off it.

Paint the bullseye around the arrow, per say.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23111 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

Yea, it's like with the whole TCU-Baylor thing. They don't look at head to head or Conference Titles until the very end or something.



I guess it could be but you'd be talking a bit different as PSU has a 2nd loss.

I think it basically mandates that if you have Teams A/B/C all close, then you look at those things. But if A has separated itself, f these 4 points
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