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re: CFB Playoff Resumes using Sagarin & ESPN FPI
Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:38 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:38 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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#41 Boise State (N)
#36 Memphis
#1 Alabama
#19 @ Texas A&M
#30 Tennessee
#17 @ Arkansas (assumed in this scenario)
#10 Mississippi State (assumed in this scenario)
SEC Championship Win (#3 UGA/#36 Mizzou)
These ranking are laughable. Its the basis for the argument as well. Im not really trying to dig on Ole Miss, dont have a problem with them but it goes to the larger issue of over valuing the SEC West.
Not trying to be a douche here, Im really not. Its just pretty clear to the "eye" test that intra West wins are overvalued and intra West loses undervalued.
Just my opinion. The West has some great teams this year just the whole of the division is literally vastly overrated.
This post was edited on 11/18/14 at 2:39 pm
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:39 pm to SummerOfGeorge
The only way UGA misses the playoff while winning the SEC championship is if they lose to GT the week before. Win out and they are in as the 4th seed.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:42 pm to kilo
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These ranking are laughable. Its the basis for the argument as well. Im not really trying to dig on Ole Miss, dont have a problem with them but it goes to the larger issue of over valuing the SEC West. Not trying to be a douche here, Im really not. Its just pretty clear to the "eye" test that intra West wins are overvalued and intra West loses overvalued. Just my opinion. The West has some great teams this year just the whole of the division is literally vastly overrated.
West teams won out of conference games against decent to good teams. East teams did not.
* Arkansas won big @ Texas Tech and hammered Northern Illinois
* LSU beat Wisconsin
* Auburn won @ Kansas State
* Alabama beat West Virginia
* Ole Miss handily beat Boise State and Memphis
In the East :
* Tennessee got blown out by Oklahoma
* Mizzou lost to Indiana and beat UCF
* Georgia hammered Clemson
* South Carolina beat ECU
That's it.
Not to mention ALL the computer rankings say the same thing about the SEC teams. So, maybe all of them are wrong and somehow the SEC West found a formula to rig the system. Or maybe the division is just really solid.
This post was edited on 11/18/14 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:43 pm to Dick Leverage
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The only way UGA misses the playoff while winning the SEC championship is if they lose to GT the week before. Win out and they are in as the 4th seed.
I dunno, it will be a wild conversation if all of that happens.
But Tech's solid season definitely helps UGA's argument.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:50 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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West teams won out of conference games against decent to good teams. East teams did not.
Its not about East vs West. I know the East is not very good from top to bottom. Not the argument I made. Why is that the focus of your reply?
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Not to mention ALL the computer rankings say the same thing about the SEC teams. So, maybe all of them are wrong and somehow the SEC West found a formula to rig the system. Or maybe the division is just really solid.
The computer rankings are predicated on preseason evaluations. Its always interesting when people use "but computers" and fail to acknowledge the issue of preseason evaluations and their long term effect on the rankings as the season progresses.
Its cool, people can have different opinions on this stuff. The discussion makes it all fun and worth while.
This post was edited on 11/18/14 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:51 pm to Irons Puppet
Yea, the Oregon team that has so much trouble with physical teams or the Baylor team that lost to West Virgina 
Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:54 pm to kilo
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The computer rankings are predicated on preseason evaluations. Its always interesting when people use "but computers" and fail to acknowledge the issue of preseason evaluations and their long term effect on the rankings as the season progresses.
The preseason rankings are phased out week by week and are completely gone by Week 6. At this point all the computers are using are 2014 results and data.
I'm certainly not claiming the computers to be the end all be all, but I do find it interesting that all of them that are independent of eachother seem to be coming back with pretty consistent results when it comes to the SEC.
This post was edited on 11/18/14 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:00 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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The preseason rankings are phased out week by week and are completely gone by Week 6. At this point all the computers are using are 2014 results and data.
They most definitely have a lasting effect on SOS, beyond the arbitrary 6 week mark you presented.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:03 pm to kilo
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They most definitely have a lasting effect on SOS, beyond the arbitrary 6 week mark you presented.
In which rankings?
The FEI, S&P, etc are all based on data from games played in the current year. They use placeholders from preseason and extrapolated figures until week 6 when they then only use 2014 season data.
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