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re: Capital One Cup Standings as of 3/15/16:
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:36 am to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:36 am to SummerOfGeorge
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We make our bacon in the spring (softball, mens golf, womens golf) + gymnastics
This is the 2nd or 3rd time this week you've ignored a certain bama sport that just finished 6th at NCAA's
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:38 am to piggilicious
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in a perfect world it would all be scored equally- just because something produces more revenue (i.e. has more fans) shouldn't matter. i don't understand how you'd call one more 'important' than the other.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that there is nothing wrong with scoring all sports equally but I would like to see one that scaled the scoring based on the sport. What 'importance' means is really up for debate. Even if a standing was created like the one stated above, everyone would still argue over it and never agree.
But I do think some sports mean more to an Athletic Department than others.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 11:07 am to MoarKilometers
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This is the 2nd or 3rd time this week you've ignored a certain bama sport that just finished 6th at NCAA's
Ha it's included in that post. Football won the national title and isn't included in that grouping too.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 11:23 am to SummerOfGeorge
Ah yes you did, but it was a few posts down from the one i quoted... My bad yo
Posted on 3/29/16 at 12:27 pm to piggilicious
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in a perfect world it would all be scored equally-
In a perfect world it would be scored based on a weighted scale of how many colleges even participate in that sport. Too many of the AD championships are won by someone like a Stanford who has more sports than anyone. It creates a situation where poor colleges can't even compete.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 12:37 pm to rockiee
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but I would like to see one that scaled the scoring based on the sport
The Capital One Cup did that (sort of) only it is weird how they determined which sports are worth more than the others.
Scoring System
Group A men's sports include Cross Country, Skiing, Rifle, Water Polo, Indoor Track & Field, Wrestling, Fencing, Swimming & Diving, Ice Hockey, Gymnastics, Volleyball, Tennis, and Golf. Group B men's sports include Soccer, Football (FCS), Football (FBS), Basketball, Lacrosse, Outdoor Track & Field, and Baseball.
Group A women's sports include Field Hockey, Cross Country, Skiing, Rifle, Indoor Track & Field, Swimming & Diving, Ice Hockey, Fencing, Bowling, Gymnastics, Water Polo, Tennis, Golf, Rowing. Group B women's sports include Soccer, Volleyball, Basketball, Lacrosse, Softball, Outdoor Track & Field.
Finish 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Group A : 20 12 10 8 6 5 4 3 2 1
Group B : 60 36 30 24 18 15 12 9 6 3
Soccer and Lacrosse should not be in group B. Far too few schools have these sports for them to be awarded the higher points.
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 3/29/16 at 12:42 pm to cardboardboxer
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In a perfect world it would be scored based on a weighted scale of how many colleges even participate in that sport. Too many of the AD championships are won by someone like a Stanford who has more sports than anyone. It creates a situation where poor colleges can't even compete.
The Directors Cup does exactly that. For example, very few teams participate in Men's Volleyball, so finishing #1 results in fewer points than finishing #1 in college baseball.
(Stanford is still #1 in the Director's Cup as of March 23rd)
LINK by conference
LINK overall
Posted on 3/29/16 at 12:46 pm to MedDawg
No they don't. West Virginia got 100 points for rifle and Bama got 100 points for football.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 12:47 pm to MedDawg
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The Directors Cup does exactly that.
It is a better standard than.
And I am not just saying that because A&M is top 25 on that list.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 12:55 pm to bigDgator
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West Virginia got 100 points for rifle and Bama got 100 points for football
Well, that is dumb
Posted on 3/29/16 at 1:09 pm to Serraneaux
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27. LSU
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58. Texas A&M
Complete opposite of what you read on this board everyday.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 1:11 pm to hg
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Complete opposite of what you read on this board everyday.
Did you check out that Director's Cup link?
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21. A&M
36. LSU
So just one list or the other doesn't tell the whole story.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 1:13 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I know, marksmanship skills built this nation. 
Posted on 3/29/16 at 1:13 pm to cardboardboxer
Sorry, this thread was titled Capital One Cup Standings. I was going off OP. :)
Posted on 3/29/16 at 1:15 pm to hg
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Sorry, this thread was titled Capital One Cup Standings
You're using a flawed methodology where anything outside of a top ten finish in one poll doesn't net any points.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 1:16 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Make your own thread then, fam.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 1:28 pm to hg
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Sorry, this thread was titled Capital One Cup Standings. I was going off OP. :)
Fair enough, I was just trying to contribute to the conversation. I won't deny A&M hasn't had the best year.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 1:49 pm to hg
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Complete opposite of what you read on this board everyday.
Hell, Kentucky sits at #43 and it has little to do with basketball.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 1:50 pm to bigDgator
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No they don't. West Virginia got 100 points for rifle and Bama got 100 points for football.
You're right. I hadn't paid much attention the past several years and they changed it beginning 2012-2013.
LINK
2012-13 Scoring Changes
Program Philosophy
The committee adjusted the philosophy of the program to read as follows - A program that honors institutions maintaining a broad-based program, achieving success in many sports, both men's and women's, in which all sports that the NCAA, NAIA or NJCAA offers a championship, along with Division IA football, and all student-athletes that compete in those sports, are treated equally.
Value by Sport
Based on the adoption of the above philosophy, the committee reinstated all sports in which the NCAA or NAIA offers a championship, along with Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS, formerly I-A) football, to full scoring values. This means that for all sports that meet the above criteria, first place is worth 100 points. Scoring for the Junior/Community Colleges is determined using the NATYCAA Cup standings.
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 3/29/16 at 1:51 pm to MedDawg
Yea, Stanford and UCLA get the same points for winning a sport like Water Polo that has 25 mostly regional participants as Duke does for winning basketball which has 300+. Silly.
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