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re: Can Hugh Freeze get Ole Miss over the hump, or will he pull a Mullen?
Posted on 11/5/13 at 4:31 pm to Quicksilver
Posted on 11/5/13 at 4:31 pm to Quicksilver
The real question is who would Florida rather hire.
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Posted on 11/5/13 at 4:32 pm to AICrooster
Wut
Posted on 11/5/13 at 4:47 pm to JasonMason
The rabbit is good, the rabbit is wise
Posted on 11/5/13 at 5:01 pm to rimenocerous
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He may not be a good play caller, but he connects with the kids and can recruit. I say he pulls a Georgia and gets to the Sugar Bowl every few years (once Saban retires), but not enough for a NC. Serious thread, what are yalls thoughts?
Posted on 11/5/13 at 5:09 pm to rimenocerous
Freeze will freeze. And pull a Mullen ... In fact, Mullen will beat Ole Miss this year! 
Posted on 11/5/13 at 5:13 pm to JasonMason
I do not think he will pull a Mullin, although I never bought into Mullin or St. when they were ranked.
Ole Miss I think can hope to be a top 25 low end most years. But its just tough to keep it going.
I like Ole Miss - they always frick up some shite, and the grove is fun. They are usually sneaky good. I think they can move to good from sneaky good. But then lose some they shouldn't.
Ole Miss I think can hope to be a top 25 low end most years. But its just tough to keep it going.
I like Ole Miss - they always frick up some shite, and the grove is fun. They are usually sneaky good. I think they can move to good from sneaky good. But then lose some they shouldn't.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 6:35 pm to Neuromancer
Freeze is 12-9 at OM. I don't know why OM fans are sucking him dry. He'll likely remain a .500 type guy, he's an awful in-game coach.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 6:44 pm to PorkSammich
After this weekend, Freeze will have won more SEC West games in his 2nd year than your coach will win in his first 3 years... Bitch.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 11:25 pm to reggierayreb
Sorant, you da man!
Posted on 11/5/13 at 11:48 pm to rimenocerous
no telling.
probably Mullen.
it is mississippi after all. probably better than Merlins...but not much better....something about Mississippi after all....
probably Mullen.
it is mississippi after all. probably better than Merlins...but not much better....something about Mississippi after all....
Posted on 11/5/13 at 11:53 pm to PorkSammich
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Freeze is 12-9 at OM.
What's Arky's record in that time period?
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I don't know why OM fans are sucking him dry
Because he's not Bret Bielema
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he's an awful in-game coach.
Meh. LSU helped alleviate some of the "bad play calling" heat that he's been getting. He was masterful in that game. His play calling was flawless the A&M game sans the last drive.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 12:47 am to olemissfan26
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Freeze will be more successful than Dan Mullen. Oh wait that has already happened
It's hilarious to me that the measure of a coach is now a paper recruiting class -- and one given Saturday in a 14 week season. When he finishes a season ranked > #15, then he will have accomplished something and surpassed what Mullen has accomplished at MSU. Until then, it's all smoke-and-mirrors bullshite.
Do I think he's better than Mullen? Yes, probably so. I think he's doing a much better job of capitalizing on initial momentum in recruiting, no doubt. But it's ridiculous the extent to which OM fans are putting the cart before the horse -- as usual.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 12:59 am to engie
If beating that arse and out recruiting that arse is better, than yes dip shite, Freeze is kicking Merlin's arse.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 1:14 am to rimenocerous
Hugh Freeze is a much better coach than Mullen. That's not the problem. The problem is getting Ole Miss to a consistent level of winning. Stealing talent away from the LSUs and Bamas and Auburns and TAMUs of the world every year will be extremely difficult.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 1:25 am to HuggieBear
He's been ranked in the final top 15? Link?
You can throw all the bullshite smoke and mirrors you want against the wall--but until he does that, he has NOT surpassed Mullen's career at MSU.
Talking about Mullen right now compared to the Mullen in 2010, you might as well not even be talking about the same coach. Because he isn't.
You can throw all the bullshite smoke and mirrors you want against the wall--but until he does that, he has NOT surpassed Mullen's career at MSU.
Talking about Mullen right now compared to the Mullen in 2010, you might as well not even be talking about the same coach. Because he isn't.
This post was edited on 11/6/13 at 1:30 am
Posted on 11/6/13 at 1:55 am to engie
Well, no, he hasn't surpassed Mullen's actual record. He hasn't had the time to do so. And it's entirely possible he won't manage to in the future. No crystal balls here. Personally, I think Freeze is an excellent coach and it will show more and more frequently as time goes on. He already owns a win as impressive as any Mullen can claim in the regular season (LSU 2013 is a bit better than UF 2010, imho) and his recruiting is clearly a notch better than Mullen's so far. But this is all just people opining based on insufficient data.
I do consider Mullen an underrated coach. His teams are fundamentally solid and make do with less talent than most of the major opponents on their schedule. But Freeze's schemes, both on offense and defense, show some top-quality coaching that I don't think Mullen can match.
I do consider Mullen an underrated coach. His teams are fundamentally solid and make do with less talent than most of the major opponents on their schedule. But Freeze's schemes, both on offense and defense, show some top-quality coaching that I don't think Mullen can match.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 6:25 am to RebelExpress38
quote:as in plural? I believe Freeze has only done these once (though that recruiting class was more of a top 10, than top 5).
Wait, has Mullen beaten top 10 teams and had top 5 recruiting classes?
I think Freeze will do a good job, but there exists a ceiling in Oxford and Starkville that he won't break through. He'll be an 8/9 win guy who can hang with anyone and will make an occasional NY day bowl.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 1:37 pm to randomways
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Well, no, he hasn't surpassed Mullen's actual record. He hasn't had the time to do so. And it's entirely possible he won't manage to in the future. No crystal balls here. Personally, I think Freeze is an excellent coach and it will show more and more frequently as time goes on. He already owns a win as impressive as any Mullen can claim in the regular season (LSU 2013 is a bit better than UF 2010, imho) and his recruiting is clearly a notch better than Mullen's so far. But this is all just people opining based on insufficient data.
I agree with all of this.
I even said in my previous post that I believe that Freeze will prove superior to Mullen in the long run.
My issue was with the OM faction saying that he's already surpassed his accomplishments -- when he hasn't yet.
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I do consider Mullen an underrated coach. His teams are fundamentally solid and make do with less talent than most of the major opponents on their schedule. But Freeze's schemes, both on offense and defense, show some top-quality coaching that I don't think Mullen can match.
On Mullen, I agree for years 1-3. In years 4-5, I don't. We're not fundamentally solid anymore.
I agree on Freeze also. That said, I saw alot of those qualities in Mullen in years 1 and 2 -- only to see them fade in year 3 and disappear altogether in years 4 and 5.
Freeze is definitely doing alot better job of capitalizing on momentum in recruiting, leading me to believe his ceiling is higher than Mullen's was at MSU.
This post was edited on 11/6/13 at 1:39 pm
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