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re: Can a non-finese or non-gimicky Arkansas team succeed?

Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by AlabamaAlum07
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:54 pm to
Absolutely, They're on the right track right now.
Posted by DC RaiseHerBack
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:57 pm to
I think we can and will. We have to beat Alabama imo and we've been close as of late.

Bielema is recruiting well where I feel it all starts, the lines. Our problem is getting all the pieces together at one time. That's been tough to do with the coaching turnovers. If we can keep Bielema around for a few more years, watch out.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 12:59 pm
Posted by MizzouTrue
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:03 pm to
Alot of teams kept us out of the endzone last year
Posted by Porker Face
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:07 pm to
A lot of teams who you aren't questioning about physicality or toughness right now

Guess we are in that category
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:22 pm to
It doesn't matter about the offense...when Arkansas has won the West, Arkansas had a good defense.

Arkansas has always been a run first program. Even when Petrino was at the helm, Arkansas would run the ball down your throat.
Posted by MizzouTrue
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:24 pm to
This thread went over your head. There was nothing to be rustled about. It was a positive post
Posted by Porker Face
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:34 pm to
No one is rustled, chief
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:34 pm to
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Just doesn't recruit at a high enough level.


True, we don't finish in the top 10 based on recruiting star rankings.
Beginning to see that that is not CBB's primary concern when it comes to recruiting in the first place. (And that's probably a good thing.)

You can't teach speed and size, true enough - but you can get lots of 3 stars who are big enough and fast enough and you can make them physical and you can make them a team, and make them disciplined and tough. You can also NOT recruit questionable character.

How far this formula can take us remains to be seen. But it has led to improved performance every year.

Looking forward to finding out.
Posted by Arksulli
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:17 pm to
We aren't really a power running team though. LSU is a power running team. What we run is more of a balanced pro set with a ton of play action. We throw the ball a lot in most games.

As a Texas fan pointed out before their bowl game with us, if we run the ball nonstop then it either means we think you are a gutless turd or we have a big lead and we are trying to run the clock out.

We aren't so much about pounding the ball into the line of scrimmage as we are being efficient in converting first downs while we bleed the clock out. Its a ball control offense with a large amount of medium range passes thrown in.

Given Bert's crawl ball style the fact that we were involved in so many shoot outs last year shows how horrible our defense was.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:31 pm to
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Just doesn't recruit at a high enough level.

myth

bert is recruiting better here than he was at wisky and we saw what he did in the B1G with that talent. he's close to having our roster exactly how he wants it compared to the turd he inherited.

our current line depth is made up primarily of 4 stars. then our badass lines make the high quality 3 and 4 stars around them look that much better
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:35 pm to
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and we saw what he did in the B1G with that talent.


I think you mean a depleted B1G

I'm not denying Bert is recruiting fairly well at Arkansas. But the B1G is much better now than it was when he was at Wisky. No way he wins at that high of a level with those teams in today's B1G.

not to mention he' snow in the SEC west
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 2:36 pm
Posted by blacknblu
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:36 pm to
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Not sure if you're serious but that's not true


I'm pretty sure he's an alter, so, who knows
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:43 pm to
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I think you mean a depleted B1G

depends on your perspective

but he's still recruiting better here than he did at wisky and better than any of our recent coaches have

lsu is a non factor. all he has to prove is that he can beat bama and he's been damn close with less talent than we keep bringing in. all signs point to its only a matter of time.
Posted by Arkiebarkie
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:47 pm to
Are you saying we are only a running team like the Badgers? Do you realize last year we lost all our starting WR's only to still pass for 3500 yards because teams stacked the box thinking we could not throw. We return all our receivers this year and will throw if teams cheat up. We are NOT Wisconsin, Jeff Long will let Bret run his offense. Arkansas has revolved their offense, much like Bama did when Kiffin came on board. Enos is a Great OC!
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:52 pm to
You're bad at this, like really bad.

This is a 2012/13 era thread. Everyone said we couldn't out Bama Bama and out LSU LSU. Those are the teams Bert's had the most success against.

Maybe Bert and his teams are just gamer and give better effort against the big boys of the conference but the spread teams have been the biggest thorn in our sides because our defensive talent in the back 7 has been ACC quality rather than SEC quality.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:53 pm to
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Do you realize last year we lost all our starting WR's only to still pass for 3500 yards because teams stacked the box thinking we could not throw

underrated stat is underrated
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:02 pm to
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Are you saying we are only a running team like the Badgers?


I most certainly did not say nor imply that. I only pointed out that his success at Wisky was in a very depleted B1G, and that comparing his success there and now being in the SECw is apples and oranges.

I agree, Enos is good at what he does and Arkansas had a nice passing attack. I'd love to see LSU more balanced.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:03 pm to
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lsu is a non factor.


keep thinking that, bud
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:07 pm to
until les is no longer your coach there's no reason not to
Posted by Arkiebarkie
Fayetteville,Ar
Member since Jan 2013
756 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:51 pm to
If LSU could get a passing game established, they could be the best this year!
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