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Cam Gate not over

Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:01 pm
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:01 pm
clarification thread
Posted by FTBLFN
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2010
5399 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:02 pm to
It's just getting started.

If it was over Auburn University would not have clarified their "no comment" stance.
Posted by GenTso
Magrathea
Member since Jan 2007
530 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:02 pm to
Auburn still getting the death penalty, according to bammers and SEC Ranters
Posted by NBamaAlum
Soul Patrolville
Member since Jan 2009
27604 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:03 pm to
No one is saying that. However, one only needs to look at the NCAA's own words...and the reinstatement of the UA textbook guys to know that this is not "over".
Posted by Dawgonit
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2009
342 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:04 pm to
Aren't universities SUPPOSED to remain quiet when an investigation goes on? I know UGA did when AJ sold his jersey.
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
24491 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:04 pm to
As I said earlier...

The Bama textbook players were declared ineligible and then reinstated too. At the end of the day, every game they participated in prior to that was vacated, and we went on probation.

Auburn is acting now in hopes of retaining their SEC Championship and BCS Title when its all said and done...
This post was edited on 12/1/10 at 12:05 pm
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26078 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

Auburn still getting the death penalty, according to bammers and SEC Ranters


Never believed that.
The investigation is still in progress, though.
The Cam eligibility thing is just another $cam.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:06 pm to
ESPN article that explains it in detail.

LINK
Posted by Stanky Legg
Member since Sep 2010
4052 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:07 pm to
WRONG.

Mash here

The NCAA has has ruled Auburn quarterback Cam Newton is eligible to compete after looking into his recruitment at Auburn and Mississippi State.


The NCAA's statement said:


"Auburn University football student-athlete Cam Newton is immediately eligible to compete, according to a decision today by the NCAA student-athlete reinstatement staff. The NCAA concluded on Monday that a violation of amateurism rules occurred, therefore Auburn University declared the student-athlete ineligible yesterday for violations of NCAA amateurism rules"


There are no penalties against Auburn or Newton, and no wins are in jeopardy.

Auburn has limited the athletic access to Newton's father, Cecil Newton. Mississippi State disassociated itself from former player Kenny Rogers, who, with Cecil Newton, tried to "actively market" Cam Newton to Mississippi State.


The SEC said:


"The conduct of Cam Newton's father and the involved individual is unacceptable and has no place in the SEC or in intercollegiate athletics," said Mike Slive, Southeastern Conference Commissioner. "The actions taken by Auburn University and Mississippi State University make it clear this behavior will not be tolerated in the SEC."


Here are some details from Auburn:


When a school discovers an NCAA rules violation has occurred, it must declare the student-athlete ineligible and may request the student-athlete's eligibility be reinstated. Reinstatement decisions are made by the NCAA national office staff and can include conditions such as withholding from competition and repayment of extra benefits. Newton was reinstated without any conditions.

According to facts of the case agreed upon by Auburn University and the NCAA enforcement staff, the student-athlete's father and an owner of a scouting service worked together to actively market the student-athlete as a part of a pay-for-play scenario in return for Newton's commitment to attend college and play football. NCAA rules (Bylaw 12.3.3) do not allow individuals or entities to represent a prospective student-athlete for compensation to a school for an athletic scholarship.

In conjunction with the case, Auburn University has limited the access Newton's father has to the athletics program and Mississippi State has disassociated the involved individual.


The SEC said:

"Our members have established rules for a fair and equal recruitment of student-athletes, as well as to promote integrity in the recruiting process," said Kevin Lennon, NCAA vice president for academic and membership affairs. "In determining how a violation impacts a student-athlete's eligibility, we must consider the young person's responsibility. Based on the information available to the reinstatement staff at this time, we do not have sufficient evidence that Cam Newton or anyone from Auburn was aware of this activity, which led to his reinstatement. From a student-athlete reinstatement perspective, Auburn University met its obligation under NCAA bylaw 14.11.1. Under this threshold, the student-athlete has not participated while ineligible."
"We are pleased that the NCAA has agreed with our position that Cam Newton has been and continues to be eligible to play football at Auburn University," Auburn University Director of Athletics Jay Jacobs said. "We appreciate the diligence and professionalism of the NCAA and its handling of this matter. "

During the reinstatement process, NCAA staff review each case on its own merits based on the specific facts. Staff decisions are made based on a number of factors including guidelines established by the Division I NCAA Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement, as well as any mitigating factors presented by the university.

Reinstatement decisions are independent of the NCAA enforcement process and typically are made once the facts of the student-athlete's involvement are determined. The reinstatement process is likely to conclude prior to the close of an investigation. It is NCAA policy not to comment on current, pending or potential investigations.


The NCAA began looking into Newton's recruitment at Mississippi State, and then Auburn, but has found nothing to make the quarterback ineligible to play for the Tigers. Auburn began an internal investigation in July and did not find any wrongdoing, either.

Newton has led Auburn to a 12-0 record and a No. 1 BCS ranking heading into Saturday's SEC Championship Game against South Carolina.


Newton has been lit up opponents, the SEC and the Auburn record books.


He leads the SEC in rushing and has accounted for 43 touchdowns, accounting for at least four touchdowns in a game seven times.


He's the first player in the SEC history to have thrown for more than 2,000 yards and to have rushed for more than 1,000 yards in SEC history.


He ranks second in the nation in passing efficiency.


He's been named the SEC's offensive player of the week six times.

Posted by dapado33
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2009
1054 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

The Bama textbook players were declared ineligible and then reinstated too. At the end of the day, every game they participated in prior to that was vacated, and we went on probation.

Auburn is acting now in hopes of retaining their SEC Championship and BCS Title when its all said and done...



So basically, if Auburn has to vacate wins, it will be the ones prior to today? And if Cam plays in the SEC Championship and BCS Championship, they won't have to vacate those since he was just ruled eligible to play by the NCAA?
Posted by Norantable
The Land of Cotton
Member since Jul 2010
2900 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by audodger
Member since Jun 2010
7077 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

ESPN article that explains it in detail.

LINK


That's likely the only thing they will say about it.
Posted by BamaFan89
T-Town
Member since Dec 2009
19297 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

ESPN article that explains it in detail.

LINK


quote:

INDIANAPOLIS -- The NCAA ruled Wednesday that Auburn quarterback Cam Newton is eligible to play.


Great detail
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:10 pm to
I think the ESPN article said all that needed to be said. Case closed.
Posted by BamaFan89
T-Town
Member since Dec 2009
19297 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

I think the ESPN article said all that needed to be said. Case closed.


If only that were the case :rimshot:
Posted by bamafan425
Jackson's Hole
Member since Jan 2009
25607 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:12 pm to
Why did Auburn declare him ineligible now, if they investigated in the Summer and found nothing?
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72176 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

the reinstatement of the UA textbook guys to know that this is not "over".



+ 100000000

We thought that was over, but a year later we get penalties over it.
Posted by NBamaAlum
Soul Patrolville
Member since Jan 2009
27604 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:13 pm to
Please notice two things from that AL.com article.

1) Goldberg wrote it.

2) The section that speaks to "no vacated wins" isn't in quotes...so the NCAA didn't say it...Charles Goldberg did.

Posted by Bellabama
Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent
Member since Nov 2009
30878 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:13 pm to
Same thing happened to Reggie Bush... It happens all the time. They had to do this before the SECCG and the BCSCG. This ruling was expected.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 12/1/10 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

NBamaAlum
Why so serious and defensive all of the sudden?
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