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re: Cal will be back. Will have next year to win or he’s out.

Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:44 am to
Posted by GreyReb
Member since Jun 2010
3897 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:44 am to
To get rid of Cal, hire a new staff, and basically hire a whole new roster for next year….way too expensive
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98921 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:48 am to
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Kentucky fans have said this crap the last 3 years


There’s a difference in fan satisfaction and an AD taking clear action to make his case for a “for cause” firing. Which is what is happening right now.
Posted by Ssubba
Member since Oct 2014
6613 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 7:58 am to
I think you're about to see an Ohio State level NIL push from the Cats.
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
16509 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:02 am to
To win what? More games, More fans, Win the SEC regular season. Win the SECT. Advance past sweet 16. A lot of questions.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:05 am to
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There’s a difference in fan satisfaction and an AD taking clear action to make his case for a “for cause” firing. Which is what is happening right now.
Does Cal have a performance threshold stated in his current contract that allows UK to fire him "with cause" if he doesn't meet or exceed the W/L performance number?
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41528 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:06 am to
Already discussed on 1st page…

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Has to meet the demands of the AD…next year, has to be competitive in regular season, SEC tournament and advanced far in the NCAA.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:11 am to
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To win what? More games, More fans, Win the SEC regular season. Win the SECT. Advance past sweet 16. A lot of questions.
I'm interested to know what type benchmark the UK AD has placed on Cal & his team performance. It sounds like the AD has set a performance parameter and if he meets or exceeds it, he retains his job and if he doesn't, he gets fired with cause and no buyout.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:18 am to
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Already discussed on 1st page…

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Has to meet the demands of the AD…next year, has to be competitive in regular season, SEC tournament and advanced far in the NCAA.


Those demands sound a little hollow on the surface. Be competitive and advance far in the NCAA?

IF I were Cal, I'd demand very specific parameters from the AD in terms of performance and W/L record. Belle mentioned in another post that he could be terminated "for cause" if he doesn't meet the AD's demands..... If I were the employee, I'm damn sure making a few demands of my own as it relates to my possible termination without a buyout. It sounds like the UK AD wants to amend his current contract to include a termination clause.


Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98921 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:19 am to
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Those demands sound a little hollow on the surface. Be competitive and advance far in the NCAA?


They’re supposed to meet tomorrow to hash it all out. Nobody knows at this point exactly what Barnhart will put in writing, so I doubt it’ll be all that vague.
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
9181 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:26 am to

This looks like a solid plan for Mitch.

Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:37 am to
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They’re supposed to meet tomorrow to hash it all out. Nobody knows at this point exactly what Barnhart will put in writing, so I doubt it’ll be all that vague.
Thanks Belle.
I'm not trying to be a jackass. just questioning the specifics.

The man is under contract where I'm sure performance enhancers are specified, i.e. meet a certain W/L record get a $$ bonus, win the SEC get a $$ bonus, make the NCAA tourney more $$, advance in the tourney more $$.

I seriously doubt a coach of Cal's caliber has a contract that includes a termination clause for poor performance resulting in termination "for cause" rendering the buyout null and void. A Coach like Calipari carries all the leverage in contract negotiations with very favorable terms.

Posted by Lucado
Member since Nov 2023
2448 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:39 am to
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If I were the employee, I'm damn sure making a few demands of my own as it relates to my possible termination without a buyout.


They can't fire him for poor performance with no buyout. If that was the case no coach would ever receive his buyout. To be fired "for cause" he would have to be caught cheating or banging a volleyball player.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98921 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:41 am to
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Thanks Belle. I'm not trying to be a jackass. just questioning the specifics.


You’re fine. We’re all asking the same questions at this point. If he isn’t fired, what does that look like? What will be the benchmarks of a new contract that doesn’t frick us running if he underperforms again? Does Cal even agree to it? I believe you’re correct in that there isn’t those trigger clauses in his current contract.

It’s also worth noting if Barnhart fricks this up, his arse is also on the line. He wasn’t exactly wearing a crown of roses with Kentucky fans before this issue.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41528 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 8:45 am to
Did you just post something from Rupps Rafters as a source of info. Lulz
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21813 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:58 am to
Time for Kentucky to cut out the cancer. It's only 33M. We paid 75M to get rid of Fisher.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
12072 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 1:13 pm to
We had the number 1 class in the country and number 2 next year. We could bring in an NBA all-star team and have and Cal would mess it up.
This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 1:55 pm
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
12072 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 1:16 pm to
You have more faith in Mitch than I do. Remember the MOU on a napkin with BCG?

I think it will be deliberately vague to make it look successful even if it isn't.
Mitch is all about money.
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
18197 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 1:20 pm to
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To get rid of Cal, hire a new staff, and basically hire a whole new roster for next year….way too expensive
I don't think you understand the insanity of this fanbase.

We'll have Kige Ramsey host bikini car washes to raise money if we have to!
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19046 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 1:25 pm to
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Kentucky can't compete now that other schools care.


That is kind of a BS statement. The reason Cal is in hot water is that he had the horses this year to win it all but couldnt put a defense on the floor better than 324th in the NCAA. That is mostly poor coaching game/management.
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