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re: Buyout numbers for each SEC HC

Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64622 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:15 pm to
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Our frick up wasn't the total amount, it's the fact we have to pay it all in 30 days or some shite like that.


holy shite, is that really true? Why would any AD agree to that?
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17293 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:21 pm to
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Pretty sure Smart's is just a guaranteed contract, basically. Buyout would be nominal after 4 years if he didn't get extended in the meantime
But you will have to extend him every year, unless you want your recruiting to absolutely tank.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25877 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:23 pm to
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But you will have to extend him every year, unless you want your recruiting to absolutely tank

Right, but if he starts to suck, then you can negotiate his buyout down as part of the extension. That's what happened with Richt.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:27 pm to
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holy shite, is that really true? Why would any AD agree to that?



He had us by the balls.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:41 pm to
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But you will have to extend him every year, unless you want your recruiting to absolutely tank

Right, but if he starts to suck, then you can negotiate his buyout down as part of the extension. That's what happened with Richt.


That is what Auburn did with Gus this last off-season. Gus got a little more in salary for a reduction in buyout.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64622 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:42 pm to
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He had us by the balls.

how so? (serious question)
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50404 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:44 pm to
He could have left for USCw or ASU. Its not like he was bluffing with USCe like Herman was.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:46 pm to
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there's no reason for Bama fans to brag about Saban "not having a buyout" because he does.


He does, but it's hard to imagine a scenario in which it would actually be needed. You aren't going to fire Saban for performance and if something comes up NCAA related and you have to fire him then you negotiate down or eliminate the buyout.

It's almost like he doesn't have a buyout either way.
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:46 pm to
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Mark Stoops (Kentucky): $14,041,667


Drops considerably after this season, but it was a reflection of the administration to show stability at a time we were going all in on facilities, recruiting, and the staff. I don't have to agree to "understand" the why behind it.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127405 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:47 pm to
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Bret Bielema (Arkansas): $15,400,000

Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46188 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:51 pm to
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it's hard to imagine a scenario in which it would actually be needed.

Bobby Bowden. Not saying it's going to happen but it eventually could.

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You aren't going to fire Saban for performance and if something comes up NCAA related and you have to fire him then you negotiate down or eliminate the buyout.

You aren't going to negotiate a buyout down or eliminate it right before you fire him. That's preposterous.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:52 pm to
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He could have left for USCw or ASU. Its not like he was bluffing with USCe like Herman was.



And the timing would have been worst case scenario given how the Texas job was also open that offseason.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50404 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:54 pm to
And the fact he was 20-5 in first first 2 seasons.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26962 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:56 pm to
How many schools besides LSU are currently paying alimony? Georgia? Auburn recently stopped.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17421 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 3:18 pm to
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Our frick up wasn't the total amount, it's the fact we have to pay it all in 30 days or some shite like that.



It was a risk. It almost cost us, but we're in the clear now. No chance that we'll need to fire him now until end of next season at the earliest, and the buyout will be down to 10 million at that point. And even that seems unlikely right now. We're in a good spot.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15391 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 3:19 pm to
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How many of these aren't buyouts at all, but just a fully guaranteed contract.



My thoughts exactly. Saban does not have a buyout.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15391 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 3:22 pm to
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I know but they use it as our AD is a genius because we have the best coach in college football and we could still fire him for free. Obviously that's not the case but that's what they say.



No one believes you can fire Saban for free (outside of a violation of the contract). Saban can walk away at any time if he wants with no penalty.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 3:24 pm to
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You aren't going to negotiate a buyout down or eliminate it right before you fire him. That's preposterous.


No, but there are clauses in all coaches contracts about what, if anything, they are owed in the event of NCAA violations.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 3:30 pm to
I have always supported that extension. It was the moment when A&M said "we aren't a stepping stone for any other college program."
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
7436 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 3:48 pm to
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You aren't going to negotiate a buyout down or eliminate it right before you fire him. That's preposterous.



Under normal circumstances, you're right. However, MOST coaches have clauses about "with cause" terminations that include things like major NCAA violations, criminal charges, or other misconduct (IE Sarkisian at USC being fired for repeatedly showing up intoxicated) that make the school's required payment slim to none.
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