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re: Butch Jones vs Dan Mullen

Posted on 5/17/16 at 10:12 am to
Posted by Coach34
Member since May 2016
143 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 10:12 am to
Ehhh, we bounced back with a Sugar Bowl victory the same way State avenged their Orange Bowl blunder with a fine showing in the Belk Bowl.
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4142 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 10:13 am to
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Ehhh, we bounced back with a Sugar Bowl victory


It's a shame that it's going to be wiped from the record books.
Posted by Coach34
Member since May 2016
143 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 10:20 am to
But it's not. Keep hoping for the downfall of big brother Ole Miss in order for your second rate program to gain some sort of delusional fulfillment.
Posted by MSU5
Memphis
Member since Aug 2011
3411 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 10:23 am to
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big brother Ole Miss



If it weren't for a stretch of football games in the 60's and 70's MSU would lead OM in every one of the big three sports. Baseball and basketball aren't even close..

ETA: By the way, how old were you in 1963?
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 10:25 am
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4142 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 10:23 am to
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But it's not.


You're right, I am sure Tunsil was more than eligible to play in that game.

quote:

delusional fulfillment.


10 win regular seasons, play in the SEC Championship game. Maybe Ole Miss should try those two things sometime.
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 10:25 am to
quote:

Dan Mullen is 2-29 against final AP ranked teams. Butch Jones is 3-20. This hypothetical scenario is similar to having to choose between developing either a brain tumor or AIDS.



Posted by Coach34
Member since May 2016
143 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 10:36 am to
Maybe Mississippi State should try to inch towards an all-time .500 record and eventually pass UK and Vandy
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
21950 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 10:41 am to
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Coach34


This frickers salty
Posted by Coach34
Member since May 2016
143 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 10:44 am to
When being right is commonly dismissed by others as being "salty"

Welcome to 2016
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17152 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 10:45 am to
quote:

Dan Mullen is 2-29 against final AP ranked teams. Butch Jones is 3-20. This hypothetical scenario is similar to having to choose between developing either a brain tumor or AIDS.



Huge difference.

Butch Jones coaches at Tennessee, once a premier program, with a long history of winning.

Dan Mullen is a Mississippi State....
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4142 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 10:50 am to
quote:

Maybe Mississippi State should try to inch towards an all-time .500 record and eventually pass UK and Vandy


Based off Dan Mullen's tenure, we are heading in that direction.

Meanwhile, Ole Miss is heading for probation, with visions of playing for an SEC Championship and 10 win regular seasons being just a dream.
Posted by Coach34
Member since May 2016
143 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 10:55 am to
Keep scratching and clawing to get out of the bunker that is last place in the history of the Southeastern Conference.
Posted by Coach34
Member since May 2016
143 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 11:34 am to
Now run along, boy
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4142 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 12:46 pm to
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boy


Racist
Posted by MsState of mind
State of Denial
Member since Aug 2013
2637 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 12:51 pm to
We have not been good for our entire history, that is correct. I can think of plenty teams that would have traded places the last 5 years
Posted by TampaReb
Member since Aug 2015
1823 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 12:52 pm to
Recuriting is a big part of a head coachs job. If it's just on field coaching Mullen 100%. If it is all around head coach Mullen right now but it all comes down to this season for Jones.
Posted by Kraven Moorehed
Franklin
Member since Dec 2015
2325 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 12:58 pm to
Mullen right now. I don't know if he can recruit well enough to win big, though.
Posted by Coach34
Member since May 2016
143 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:30 pm to
He can't, but that's not necessarily all on him. As I've stated, Mississippi State is the worst program in conference history - also factor in that Starkville is one of the worst college towns in America. Even with their woman beating 5* bolstering their 36th ranked class, that's really about as good as it'll ever get. State does well scheduling pusscake OOC schools to rack up wins and has Kentucky as their permanent opponent from the East. So 2-6 in SEC play will always manufacture a low-rent postseason appearance. Being the historical whipping boy of the conference, what more could you really ask for?

Manipulating the System: A Dan Mullen Story
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 1:33 pm
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4142 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:33 pm to
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Being the historical whipping boy of the conference, what more could you really ask for?


A 10 win season and to play in the SEC Championship game. You wouldn't think being a whipping boy that State would be the only program in the SEC West who hasn't done those things.

Enjoy probation, I am sure the mecca you call Oxford will help ease the pain.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:35 pm to
I like both guys but I think CBJ has an institutional advantage at Tennessee. Now that the machine is mostly rebuilt he'll reap the recruiting and other benefits that go along with that. Mullen OTOH doesn't have that and short of OM-style cheating, he'll continue to take the slower but steadier path to building a solid program.
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